From: Michael T. Halligan (michael_at_halligan.org)
Date: Tue Jan 03 2006 - 20:15:45 CET
Message-Id: <2401E0F2-1B6C-43DC-9A22-ED8CCB264520@halligan.org> From: "Michael T. Halligan" <michael@halligan.org> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:15:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] Since Novell doesn't care to support it's paying customers..
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The issue here is that SuSE is a great product. Novell hasn't had a
"GREAT" product for 15 years, and I'm
not quite sure they fully understand how to deal with this. They're
making strides... Slow, short strides. I
personally am using SLES because it's toolset, package dependencies,
and provisioning system are by far
the best on the commercial linux market. That being said, I'm
annoyed with the quality of Novell's website,
the inconsistent message about versions, and the very inaccurate
documentation.
I wish that Novell would either treat SuSE as a separate business
unit, or sell SuSE to IBM or SUN.
On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Alexei_Roudnev wrote:
> Worst of all, they DO have a SEXY Linux - SuSe is one of the best
> boxed
> linuxes on the market (and in the network). And they cannot make a
> proper
> wrapping for it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Silviu Marin-Caea" <silviu_marin-caea@fieldinsights.ro>
> To: <suse-sles-e@suse.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 2:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] Since Novell doesn't care to support
> it's paying
> customers..
>
>
>> On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:38, Harald Mueller-Ney wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 02, Michael T. Halligan wrote:
>>>> Could somebody please put up a mirror of the SP3 iso images?
>>>
>>> I will post the URL to the list as soon as possible. The
>>> christmas break
>>> is over and I hope to get in contact with responsible people in US
>>> today.
>>>
>>> I am really sorry that I couldn't fix this problem earlier, but I
>>> wasn't
>>> able to get in contact with the correct people due christmas
>>> break. I
>>> really tried my best to make you and all paying customers happy
>>> even so
>>> I has been on vacation too.
>>
>> In case it's not evident, many people on this list have a problem
>> with
> Novell
>> (as in old Novell), and not at all SUSE.
>>
>> While Novell DID do good things (openSUSE is the most notable), it
>> still
> has
>> some major problems:
>>
>> Novell does not project a "sexy" image (like Apple). It does not
>> project
> a
>> "rich and successful" image (like IBM). It does not project a
>> "customer
>> care" image (like Dell). It does not project a "glitz, spit and
>> polish"
>> image (like Microsoft).
>>
>> Then, what? The image is "old fart". There you have it.
>> Politically
>> incorrect.
>>
>> And some of the before-Novell SUSE users utterly hate that.
>> Because SUSE
> is
>> sexy, and we don't like to see it waste.
>>
>> For fairness' sake and for all the good things Novell has done so
>> far,
> we'd
>> like to see Novell live a new life. It can be done. Look at IBM.
>>
>> But, Novell, you really need to kick yourself in the ass. The
>> Netware
> days
>> are long gone. Times have changed.
>>
>>
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