From: Alexei_Roudnev (Alexei_Roudnev_at_exigengroup.com)
Date: Wed Jul 19 2006 - 01:46:52 CEST
Message-ID: <1d1b01c6aac4$71e6a250$6f31a8c0@sjc.exigengroup.com> From: "Alexei_Roudnev" <Alexei_Roudnev@exigengroup.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:46:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] SLES defaults
Marcus; I do not know why, but I see ISDN script (not modules) causing
system reboot to be frozen sometimes.
On the other hand, ISDN is absolute noncence for 100% American's users and
95% all other users, with possible exception in West Europe only.
I can investigate, why it happen, Normally it do not cause problems, but
when you upgrade etc, it sometimes sticks.
> > - isdn is ON by default. Problem is that ISDN often refuse to shutdown
and
> > so srtick system on 'reboot' (reboots are not reliable at all, but it's
> > another story).
>
> It should not load any module by default, and it should not stick on
reboot.
>
> What module is loaded in your case?
>
> > - reboot on panic - must be ON for the servers. It is a very good
mousetrap
> > for the admins (to fin system waiting for the human after panic, and it
will
> > happen on Christnmas night, for sure -:)).
>
> There was a kernel cmdline option for this (as far as I remember).
Yes, correct. I am talking about default. I don't know ANY other OS which
(esp. in server's case) do not reboot on system panic.
So, why to keep this strange default? Remember, that 90% sysadmins never wil
notice it until wil found their OS sticked in _panic, no reboot_ one unhappy
(for their families) night.
>
> > Such things can not be implemented on the _firts request_, of course,
but we
> > need some channel to provide _low priority wishes_ for the system (for
high
> > priority, channel
> > exists and is _support_. But what if issue is not major but annoying? )
>
> You can always submit bugs against the openSUSE project, via
bugzilla.novell.com.
> Wishlist items can also be added to opensuse.org WIKI for instnace.
Yes, OpenSuse is a good choice if things are not about _server only_
features.
Btw, see Solaris download page?
They said on the first line (something like):
- here <...> is e-mail for your responses and backfeeds. We do not promise
to answer all requests here.
Why don't we have it for SuSe distributions?
>
> openSUSE will in turn at some time then become SLE 11.
>
> Ciao, Marcus
>
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