From: silverdragon (stephen.donaldson_at_gmail.com)
Date: Thu May 11 2006 - 00:51:09 CEST
Message-ID: <41fb5ca40605101551w2c57183q7cff90bf1844626e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:21:09 +0930 From: silverdragon <stephen.donaldson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] SLES 10 Open Beta - When?
am with Alexi on this one, the types on installations that the opensuse
project is likely to be put on are not going to be complex environments. The
SLES10 installations will be placed on bigger hardware, complex raid, more
exotic hardware and indeed have much more expected of it. Our SLES10
installs are destined for some very complex equipment, I fully expect SLES10
has not been tested on this type of hardware. SLES10 and opensuse cannot be
compared except at basic debug level, the more complex environments will
produce a smaller but more difficult set of bugs to fix.
In my opinion there should have been a SLES open BETA, it was a mistake that
it was not.
Steve
On 5/11/06, Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 12:44:04PM -0700, Alexei_Roudnev wrote:
> > Hmm.
> >
> > I can predict the same trouble again - too narrow beta testing for
> SLES10,
> > because of no open beta. As a result, we will need to wait until
> > ServicePack1.
> >
> >
> > PS. Novel never realize, that testing Limnux require thousands of
> > installation, doing on thousands of very different (sometimes unusual)
> > environments. The only way to do it is to have an open (with
> restrictions,
> > ok) beta programms.
> > Of course, OpenSuSe simplify it all (allowing ,many installations to be
> > tested in real environments), but SLES10 release still wil not be usable
> in
> > productions, except if we will see 2 - 3 month Open beta program over
> it.
> > Notice, tnat both, SLES9 and SLES8 relases, was not usable. People like
> to
> > make the same mistakes again and again.
>
> You are aware that SUSE Linux 10.1 is the codebase that SLES 10 uses and
> that the open Betas and RCs for SL 10.1 are the massive open beta test? ;)
>
> > (OK, we all learned already and do not plan release versions in
> production.
> > So, SLES0 release will be a real open beta -:), and SLES10 SP1 will be a
> > real release. I only guess, why they can not use correct names - SLES10
> and
> > SLES9 are BETAS, and SLES9 SP1 and SLES10 SP1 are/will_be production 0
> > releases.).
>
> I would not say so. They are stable releases.
>
> Ciao, Marcus
>
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