From: Alexei_Roudnev (Alexei_Roudnev_at_exigengroup.com)
Date: Thu May 11 2006 - 18:15:31 CEST
Message-ID: <014c01c67516$201d9de0$6401a8c0@alexh> From: "Alexei_Roudnev" <Alexei_Roudnev@exigengroup.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:15:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] SLES 10 Open Beta - When?
Hmm, you do not understand our proposal.
It is simple.
Now release life looks as:
BEta-1 Beta-2 Beta-3 ... Beta-RC1 Beta-Rc2 ... Release Update-after-errors
closed open
open
As a result, Release comes non tested and so have many bugs, but (and it's
worst) it became a branch-base for a long (you stil starts with SLES9
Release).
Proposal is simple to open last release Candidate ERXACTLY as it is doing
for Release, but DO NOT name it release for a month, got feedbacks and
collect errors, patch them, name resultion version RELEASE and make ait a
branch base,
It allows to have a stable, well tested Release.
Beta-1 Beta-2 ... Beta-RC1 Beta-RC2 ... Release
closed open (1 month min) open, base for
service packs
Notice that it do not make much difference in timeline, but allows to have a
better tested basic version.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rainer Duffner" <rainer@ultra-secure.de>
To: <jonlists@cbsol.com>
Cc: <suse-sles-e@suse.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] SLES 10 Open Beta - When?
> jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> > How many people complaining about this officially requested the beta
from
> > Novell, or a Novell Partner, rather than just expecting to download an
> > "open beta" from which Novell would get little or no feedback? What's
the
> > point of that?
>
>
> That is, of course, the other side of the truth.
> Providing meaningful feedback is difficult. And possibly timeconsuming.
> In the past, SuSE cited lack of resources as the primary reason why
> betas were only available to a very small amount of customers (and
> partners).
> I must admit that personally I have no need for SLES10(beta) - I just
> feel that if the process of getting "into" the beta-circle would be a
> bit easier, some "if I had known that in advance"-situations could be
> avoided.
> Again, this is also a capacity-problem: Who is going to provide support
> to a not-yet-released product?
> Does the helpdesk (need to) know about it? What liabillites do arise?
> People tend to use BETA-software also in production - and complain to
> SuSE and even to the media when it fails.
>
> I can understand why SuSE/Novell wants to avoid such a situation by
> working with a well-known and sensible group of beta-testers.
>
>
> cheers,
> Rainer
>
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