From: Alexei_Roudnev (Alexei_Roudnev_at_exigengroup.com)
Date: Wed Mar 07 2007 - 01:00:17 CET
Message-ID: <15a701c7604b$97126f90$6f31a8c0@sjc.exigengroup.com> From: "Alexei_Roudnev" <Alexei_Roudnev@exigengroup.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:00:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] W3M Browser for registration
It can be a beginning of the end for SuSe as a server. I can't even propse a
server system, which can't be started and registered for updates without
GUI. Until now, yast was our friend in passing thru this requirement (it
works without GUI, when required), so we could compete with 'up2date';
SLES10 eliminates this.
As a result, I am afraid that SLES9 will be last SuSe which we could use
(and next OS will be Oracle Linux or something like this). We can't use
Sles10 at all because of dumb update/registratoion system, no YOU service,
and some incompatibility; I am looking forward to SLES10 Sp1 (beta is
available already),
but if SLES team don't understand an importance of 'yast is THE ONLY
management tool and 'any management task must work in text only mode', then
sorry, I have not any chance to approve SLES10 as a future platform.
Be serious. '"Everything can be done thru yast, in text or X11 mode" is one
of the primary SuSe benefits; if we lost it, we have one more _unusual
Linux, such as Mandrake or Debian, but for money_ . Add a great
incompatibility between SLES9 and SLES10 (too much for smooth upgrade, for
example ),
add prevalence of RHEL/Oracle Linux on the server's market, add outdated
packages in SLES9 (old heartbeat good example, old lvm is another example) -
and you will see a tough way to keep with the system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de>
To: "Gordon Ross" <G.Ross@ccw.gov.uk>
Cc: <suse-sles-e@suse.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] W3M Browser for registration
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:04:01AM +0000, Gordon Ross wrote:
> > Can I ask that Novell/SuSE seriously look at changing the registration
> > system for SLES 10 when building SLES without a GUI. The w3m "browser"
> > just doesn't cut the mustard. At the end of the day, it appears that all
> > that w3m does is allow you to enter an e-mail address and an activation
> > code. Why can't we do that with YaST ? YaST works - even in text mode.
> >
> > Please !
>
> It was requested to have the ability to handle any web forms there.
>
> We tried to convince product management not to do it, but do it on
> YAST level ... but did not succeed.
>
> All yay for shine web interfaces.
>
> Ciao, Marcus
>
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