From: Alexei_Roudnev (Alexei_Roudnev_at_exigengroup.com)
Date: Fri Mar 23 2007 - 21:33:27 CET
Message-ID: <0f7301c76d8a$83797cc0$6401a8c0@alexh> From: "Alexei_Roudnev" <Alexei_Roudnev@exigengroup.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:33:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [suse-sles-e] SLES10 sux (== /bin/su) - broken??
It does not work in SLES10 only, and only because they replaced working sux
to the propblematric su + pam_xauth and did not documented all details.
> > Nothing is wrong in such scenario and nothing is unsecure.
>
> Except that it does not work, you mean.
>
> > You can't use ssh to start command in X11 mode, and it is what is
required
> > in many cases (esp. with Oracle).
>
> Why not? I can.
Hmm...
You mean that you can run
ssh -X user@host command
and it will work? May be (I'll try), but it is a strange way to do
'sux -' -:) - ssh -X oracle@localhost ". .profile; cd $DIR; ./runInstaller"
and require oracle to have a working password. Compare with
sux - oracle -c "cd DIR && ./runInstaller"
> I can't remember anyone claiming that SLES10 was a drop-in replacement
Unfortunately, when they startyed SLES10, thy almost freeze any changes in
SLES9 ( I can understand it, so I do not
object too much). As a result, you have not a good choice:
- SLES9 os outdated
- SLES10 have a huge # of small problems and required a whole bunchh of
workarounds.
Btw, it was not a case when switching from SLES8 to SLES9.
And here I blame them not for the 'change' but for 'change, did not test
well, did not documented new tools'. Examples are here - sux, iscsi +
hotplug, netfs... May be, NFS (found many strange things in SLES10 NFS, but
I can't claim that it was not oor own problem).
And I blame for the not providing good feedback channells. I tried SLES10
beta4 (have access as a developer), find a bug in yast2->nfs, how can I
report it if I am not signed to the beta programm (I did not signed because
of unrealistic requirements for the beta testers)? No way. So I can only
pray that other beta testers notice this bug and fix it.
As I said before, SLES10 is, in many areas, a great system. But minor bugs
and minor problems, when we see too many of them, became major. And dropping
yast2 quality make me to feel _it is going to be abandoned_. Just as KDE is
already _abandoned_ (what? It is supported? Install SLES10, open kde, try
'devices' - folder is not in place already... Someting is already broken.
Guess KDE uality after 2 or 3 service packs!?
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