Re: [suse-sparc] Will there be a SuSE 8.0 for Sparc?

From: Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas (edvega@racsa.co.cr)
Date: Fri Mar 08 2002 - 13:37:35 PST

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    Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:37:35 -0600
    From: "Eduardo J. Vega Arguedas" <edvega@racsa.co.cr>
    Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020308153700.039c6ec0@pop.racsa.co.cr>
    Subject: Re: [suse-sparc] Will there be a SuSE 8.0 for Sparc?
    

    And what about the Support for Sun blade 100 ?

    It crash just at the start of the installation ?

    Just asking... =(

    >On Fri, Mar 08, Paolo Marcheschi wrote:
    >
    > > This is a very interesting question, It seems there is a huge lack of
    > > support here!! Where are the suse experts. I think There are a lot of
    > > bugs in the distribution, Is there a SUSE staff person to speak with, in
    > > this list ?
    >
    >What did you expect? That you get free support for a free product?
    >There are SuSE employes on this list and if they have time they
    >will answer questions. But even this form of support costs something,
    >and if it is only our free time.
    >
    >Why do you think does Red Hat and Mandrake stop their SPARC support?
    >You cannot refinance it over selling boxes. Remember how expensive a
    >UltraSPARC is and which different hardware you need to support a wide
    >range of SPARC hardware. No Linux Distributor has so much money only
    >to give something back to the Linux comunity for free.
    >
    >The bad news: For 8.0, as in the past, I will skip one version.
    >The good news: We will continue with 8.1, if I'm able to get more and
    >faster UltraSPARCs (Hey, where are the people from Sun on this list?
    >Since Sun mentioned SuSE Linux for SPARC in their Linux announcement,
    >maybe they can start loaning me newer and faster hardware?)
    >My few current ones are far to slow to compile current glibc/gcc and
    >qt.
    >
    >But I don't think that 32bit SPARCs will be supported any longer:
    >it is impossible to use our current installer with kernel 2.2
    >and kernel 2.4 is still far away from running stable. It is possible
    >to configure a minimal kernel which runs on most of the 32bit SPARCs,
    >but this kernel misses to much important features. And I don't see
    >a kernel developer looking at this :-(
    >
    >Now to the known, four bugs:
    >
    >- Some people have problems with missing SUN labels. As already
    > written, at least twice, on this list: Use the expert partitioner,
    > select "extra options", clear the boot block and reread the partition
    > table. This always works fine for me.
    >
    >- ADSL support: I have some reports that it works fine and some that
    > it does not work. Since I don't have the posibility to test it, I
    > cannot look at it.
    >
    >- If you load the UK keyboard mapping into the X11 server, the machine
    > crashes. I don't know what happens here, and the X11 developers are
    > busy with other things and don't have the time to look at it at the
    > moment.
    >
    >- On 32bit SPARCs the installer does not identify CD2-CD5 correct,
    > a problem due the fact that I had to use the 32bit kernel.
    >
    >
    >I think for the third SuSE Linux/SPARC release this is not so bad ;-)
    >
    > Thorsten
    >
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