Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:35:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert V. Sigillito" <rsigill@aplcenMP.apl.jhu.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10203082134400.16868-100000@aplcenMP.apl.jhu.edu> Subject: Re: [suse-sparc] Will there be a SuSE 8.0 for Sparc?
Thorsten,
I haven't written to this list in a while. I've been problem free!
I wanted to tell you that I am extremely happy with your distro for the
Sparc. It really is well put together. Since you do supply the product for
free I can understand your position. However, I pay for your product each
and everytime you release an upgrade. How? I buy SuSE Professional (for
i386). I never would have purchased your i386 distro if it wasn't for your
Sparc distro. Nothing against your i386 distro, I just prefer FreeBSD to
Linux on i386. Of course people who do what are do are impossible to track,
but I wanted to let someone at SuSE know that someone is paying for the
Sparc distro in a roundabout way.
Keep up the good work.
Bob
--On Friday, March 08, 2002 10:29:53 PM +0100 Thorsten Kukuk
<kukuk@suse.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, Paolo Marcheschi wrote:
>
>> This is a very interesting question, It seems there is a huge lack of
>> support here!! Where are the suse experts. I think There are a lot of
>> bugs in the distribution, Is there a SUSE staff person to speak with, in
>> this list ?
>
> What did you expect? That you get free support for a free product?
> There are SuSE employes on this list and if they have time they
> will answer questions. But even this form of support costs something,
> and if it is only our free time.
>
> Why do you think does Red Hat and Mandrake stop their SPARC support?
> You cannot refinance it over selling boxes. Remember how expensive a
> UltraSPARC is and which different hardware you need to support a wide
> range of SPARC hardware. No Linux Distributor has so much money only
> to give something back to the Linux comunity for free.
>
> The bad news: For 8.0, as in the past, I will skip one version.
> The good news: We will continue with 8.1, if I'm able to get more and
> faster UltraSPARCs (Hey, where are the people from Sun on this list?
> Since Sun mentioned SuSE Linux for SPARC in their Linux announcement,
> maybe they can start loaning me newer and faster hardware?)
> My few current ones are far to slow to compile current glibc/gcc and
> qt.
>
> But I don't think that 32bit SPARCs will be supported any longer:
> it is impossible to use our current installer with kernel 2.2
> and kernel 2.4 is still far away from running stable. It is possible
> to configure a minimal kernel which runs on most of the 32bit SPARCs,
> but this kernel misses to much important features. And I don't see
> a kernel developer looking at this :-(
>
> Now to the known, four bugs:
>
> - Some people have problems with missing SUN labels. As already
> written, at least twice, on this list: Use the expert partitioner,
> select "extra options", clear the boot block and reread the partition
> table. This always works fine for me.
>
> - ADSL support: I have some reports that it works fine and some that
> it does not work. Since I don't have the posibility to test it, I
> cannot look at it.
>
> - If you load the UK keyboard mapping into the X11 server, the machine
> crashes. I don't know what happens here, and the X11 developers are
> busy with other things and don't have the time to look at it at the
> moment.
>
> - On 32bit SPARCs the installer does not identify CD2-CD5 correct,
> a problem due the fact that I had to use the 32bit kernel.
>
>
> I think for the third SuSE Linux/SPARC release this is not so bad ;-)
>
> Thorsten
>
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