Re: [suse-sparc] Will there be a SuSE 8.0 for Sparc?

From: Lamar Owen (lamar.owen@wgcr.org)
Date: Sat Mar 09 2002 - 18:34:24 PST

  • Next message: John Ruff: "[suse-sparc] 4mm SCSI DDS-2 Tape Drive"

    Message-Id: <200203100234.VAA29166@www.wgcr.org>
    From: Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org>
    Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:34:24 -0500
    Subject: Re: [suse-sparc] Will there be a SuSE 8.0 for Sparc?
    

    On Friday 08 March 2002 10:44 pm, IT3 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR-R wrote:
    > Your theorem is completely misplaced. I have joined many RedHat
    > lists and gotten responses from RedHat employees and never paid a dime,
    > though they do appreciate my taking the time to inform them of the
    > issues with their documentation or code they wrote (something no SuSE
    > employee, that I have seen, has ever done here thus far).

    You're not on many Red Hat lists, then. I'm on one (the very name of which I
    can't say due to my NDA with Red Hat as a beta tester) where a message such
    as yours would have been laughed at.

    Oh, and Red Hat doesn't support SPARC anymore. But, if you are so inclined,
    check out the Aurora project -- and see what sort of response you will get.

    RedHat's dropping of SPARC support wasn't very popular. At least SuSE has
    _something_ you can use. If you don't like it, use Solaris then. Or help
    correct the problems. Or just be quiet if you'renot going to be constructive
    about it.

    > I must admit, I am not a lawyer, but I do believe that the lack
    > of YAST's GPLness, is in fact a violation of the GPL. It is (as I
    > understand it) a derivative work. In other words, YAST has no
    > functionality if you remove Linux. Therefore, as I understand it YAST is
    > a derivative work, and ought be properly licensed according to the
    > stipulations of the GPL as it applies to Linux.

    Yast could probably be made work on a *BSD kernel. RPM works on such a
    kernel; SuSE could potentially replace the Linux kernel with something else
    with some effort. Therefore, your understanding is incorrect. You simply
    have a misunderstanding of 'derivative work' as used in copyright law in the
    US.

    You going to ask the PostgreSQL developers to change to GPL because it has no
    functionality apart from the kernel? (PostgreSQL is BSD licensed) Go ahead
    and post a message to that effect on pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org. And get
    flamed. And PostgreSQL is in SuSE.

    Does Yast make _any_ direct use of the Linux kernel? (I'll answer with a
    tentative NO as Yast, like most programs, uses the standard C library,
    implemented on top of the kernel using glibc. Yast could just as easily use
    the OpenBSD libc on the OpenBSD kernel. Yast is not a derivative work of the
    Linux kernel. Sorry.

    > There is a fifth bug, a dma error that occurs on the Ethernet
    > (happy meal) board when a large amount of network traffic flows on the
    > board. I personally tested and experienced this, and no such problem
    > exists when the same level of data is pumped using Solaris, thus, it is
    > not a hardware problem.

    No, it is a kernel problem. Not even a SuSE problem. Talk to the linux
    kernel mailing list. :-)

    -- 
    Lamar Owen
    WGCR Internet Radio
    1 Peter 4:11
    

    -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-sparc-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-sparc-help@suse.com



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.0 : Sat Mar 09 2002 - 18:32:55 PST