[sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3!
Waite, Dick (External)
Dick.Waite at softwareag.com
Mon Jul 10 05:57:42 MDT 2017
Grand Day Richard,
Many thanks for the very clear explanation, it does clear up some of my misunderstandings.
I was always a little worried by using LEAP we were a little in front of SLE and could get issues before it was seen by SLE. This is now clear, the horse is in front of the cart, which is great. We all know why LEAP42 is very popular with both our developers and many customers but to know for non-KDE issues SLE is batting first is grand news.
I have a customer who likes 05:00 CET/DST chats, on a Friday and Saturday they are very often very short, just contractor to contractor, so Saturday was a good time to kick on with some more RC2+ updates, and I thought update some LEAP42 servers to cover the security issue. Now if I had started on a Monday to do this the good Marcus would have been in and out and I would still be none the wiser.
But I am wiser, and happier that SLE is leading LEAP42, I did worry that would day we would hit an issue not seen on SLE, but now I know better.
In future I'll not make noise early on Saturday or Sundays and as Monday is my day of rest I'm sure all will be well by Tuesdays ;o)
Many Thanks again Richard.
From: Richard Brown [rbrown at suse.de]
Sent: 08 July 2017 15:46
To: Waite, Dick (External)
Cc: sle-beta at lists.suse.com
Subject: Re: [sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3!
Grand afternoon Dick,
Just an aside about Leap and SLE patches - Leap has a symbiotic relationship with SLE; for those packages which are shared with SLE, openSUSE is in a position to build its patches only after they're available to SLE customers.
(Unlike other enterprise-derived community distros) there is no artificial delay between SLE patch availability and openSUSE Leaps opportunity to make use of the same sources, so in many cases the different in release time is minor or imperceptible, but you shouldn't expect Leap to be getting maintenance updates first out of those two seperate (but related) distributions.
Hope this clears that up.
- Richard Brown
> On 8. Jul 2017, at 12:19, Waite, Dick (External) <Dick.Waite at softwareag.com> wrote:
> What a grand morning,
> New Zealand 15 - 15 Lions and VET beats HAM in P3 to make Q very interesting ;o)
> Many Thanks Marcus, I'm updating LEAP42 in the home_office and sles12 in SAG_office, looking grand.
> It's going to be a grand Saturday.
> From: Marcus Meissner [meissner at suse.de]
> Sent: 08 July 2017 11:18
> To: Waite, Dick (External)
> Cc: vetter at physik.uni-wuerzburg.de; sle-beta at lists.suse.com
> Subject: Re: [sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3!
> FWIW, I just released the Leap 42.2 kernel update. It is 4.4.74 though, but of course future
> updates will bring 4.4.75 or newer versions.
> Ciao, Marcus
>> On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 08:35:09AM +0000, Waite, Dick (External) wrote:
>> Grand Morning Andreas,
>> Many thanks for the update. I use "zypper lu or lp" on 42-2 and as of this time it's says there are no updates. So could you show me the command I should use to show/install this kernel in update-test please.
>> Wishing you a grand weekend.
>> From: vetter at physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [vetter at physik.uni-wuerzburg.de]
>> Sent: 08 July 2017 09:56
>> To: Waite, Dick (External)
>> Cc: sle-beta at lists.suse.com
>> Subject: Re: [sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3!
>> There is a newer kernel in update-test for 42.2.
>> And there was an announcement on the opensuse-security list. Sorry can't find it at the moment.
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Andreas Vetter
>> Waite, Dick (External) --- Re: [sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3! ---
>> Von: "Waite, Dick (External)" <Dick.Waite at softwareag.com>
>> An: sle-beta at lists.suse.com
>> Datum: Sa. 08.07.2017 09:12
>> Betreff: Re: [sle-beta] Important update of the Linux Kernel for SLE 12 SP3!
>> Grand Sunny Saturday,
>> While going through my Beta machines applying this security update I had some time to update some of the LEAP42 machines used by staff who like to use KDE...
>> The old kernel of SLES12 SP-3 RC-2 is 4.4.73 and the security patch updates it to 4.4.75. The kernel on LEAP42 is 4.4.73 but there is no security patch available to keep these machines safe, well not at I can see.
>> My Beta machines are all on internal networks, so a security hack is not very likely, but the patch is being applied. The LEAP42 machines are on both internal and external networks, so this security patch would apply more to these than my pottering along Beta test machines.
>> Just seem a little odd that a Beta test version is getting an update before the public version which I would have thought much more venerable. I thought the idea was Weed would tumble along out at point and find the new way. LEAP42 would filter out the good stuff and this would pass into the Beta's of the main applications of SUSE . Now we have a security patch update, which seems could not wait for the next update, but this is not available to the public version yet.
>> Not sure of other beta testers machine but I would have thought most would be either internal networks or behind well protected firewalls, seems the cart has got in front of the horse...
>> Thoughts and comments anyone ?
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