<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Hi,</div></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30 Jan 2018, at 09:46, Vincent Moutoussamy <<a href="mailto:VMoutoussamy@suse.com" class="">VMoutoussamy@suse.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 28 Jan 2018, at 00:00, Bernd <<a href="mailto:ecki@zusammenkunft.net" class="">ecki@zusammenkunft.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hello,<br class=""><br class="">what would be a command to compare the packages installed with minimal (no package DVD) vs. base-module and text-mode pattern in SLES15?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">This is not exactly right, minimal here in your sentence mean the Installer.<br class="">However "The scope of an installation, only containing the base system, is<br class="">comparable to the installation pattern minimal system of previous SUSE Linux<br class="">Enterprise Server versions.”<br class="">(cf <a href="https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/sles_installquick_20171221.pdf" class="">https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/sles_installquick_20171221.pdf</a>).<br class="">So Installer + Basesystem Module = minimal system.<br class=""><br class="">The installer alone for us is not intend to be used as a “minimal system”!<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class="">My last comment was not technically correct, so let me rephrase it: </div><div><br class=""><div><div>When using the "Installer iso” _alone_ (without the “Packages iso”), you can </div><div>only install a “Minimal SLES” which can be compare to the pattern “minimal </div><div>system” of previous SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. The “Installer iso” only </div><div>contains the set of packages of “Minimal SLES” from the “Base System Module”.</div><div>The full “Base System Module” is present in the “Packages iso” or the Online Channels. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>To sum up, if you want to install:</div><div>- Minimal SLES -> Installer iso</div><div>- SLES Text Mode -> Installer iso + Packages iso or Online Channels</div><div>- SLES With GNOME -> Installer iso + Packages iso or Online Channels</div></div></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">It looks to me like the minimal system would be enough to run applications, is that actually supported/intended or should the base module always be present (for SLES).<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Well for “minimal system” we already provide and support JeOS. Did you take a<br class="">look at it?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">BTW: in minimal I missed "sudo" and "less", both packages seem to be on the installer media and can manually be installed. Is there a policy on what will be on installer CD but not in minimal?<br class="">Greetings<br class="">Bernd<br class=""></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div><div><div>Well, our goal for a minimal system is to reduce the package list to what we </div><div>consider the strict necessary to boot a system and be ready to be deployed or </div><div>integrated.</div><div>But it is expected that you might need to add packages to be able to run your</div><div>applications which could depend on tools and libraries not present in the </div><div>“Minimal SLES” or JeOS but on modules.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:57, Bernd Eckenfels <<a href="mailto:ecki@zusammenkunft.net" class="">ecki@zusammenkunft.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Yes you have different wordings in manual, meta data and installer gui. it woukd be good to unify minimal/base/text-only. However I was refering to the variant called “minimal” by the installer when no package media is registered (and sles product is selected).</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I will check with our documentation team what we could improve to mitigate such</div><div>confusion. By the way, feel free to send any feedback on our Quick Installation </div><div>Guide (has been updated yesterday). <a href="https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/sle-beta/#documentation" class="">https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/sle-beta/#documentation</a></div></div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">I am.mostly researching to give a minimal package base for installation prerequisites</span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Regards,<br class=""><div class="">--<br class="">Vincent Moutoussamy<br class="">SUSE Beta Program and SDK Project Manager</div></body></html>