<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 3 Jun 2019, at 21:19, Bernd Eckenfels <<a href="mailto:ecki@zusammenkunft.net" class="">ecki@zusammenkunft.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div style="direction: ltr;" class="">I know one can manually request a beta code, it is just more work (for me and you - it would have been easier You could for example add the product subscription to all partner or beta customers by default)</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div><div><div><div>Well, adding beta product subscriptions to partners and customers by default is</div><div>an appealing idea, however I want to minimise the confusion or misusage of beta</div><div>subscriptions in production environment. It’s a different approach when someone</div><div>is requesting a beta code to be used for a specific need at a specific time and</div><div>it’s less prone to misusage or confusion because the requester should knows what</div><div>he requested.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>That being said, we are working on providing Beta Registration Codes directly</div><div>from our SUSE Customer Center.</div><div>I have to admit that this feature is already available to our SUSE Employees. </div><div>But we need a bit more time to make this feature meet our quality standards for a</div><div>broader audience. </div><div>So sorry for the tease without any ETA or details, we are still working on it!</div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">
<div style="direction: ltr;" class="">Since I only wanted to check if my installation description (for setting up a database) is still valid I was going with a non-Subscription package install like it worked well before. I don’t work with SLES on a daily base so all
these strange conventions just make it harder - it might not be a problem for people running it. But then again, I can imagine with a cumbersome developer out of the box experience it does not improve adoption. (You are just spoiled if you can netinstall any
open distro)</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div>Thanks for the feedback it’s important for us to gather inputs from people with</div><div>different profiles and needs.</div><div><br class=""></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">
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<b class="">Gesendet:</b> Montag, Juni 3, 2019 3:02 PM<br class="">
<b class="">An:</b> Bernd Eckenfels<br class="">
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<b class="">Betreff:</b> Re: [sle-beta] SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Service Pack 1 GMC3!
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<div class="">There is beta registration code for beta test, it’s just not shared by default</div>
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<div class="">And we provide them also for all SUSE Products in beta: SUSE Manager, SUSE</div>
<div class="">OpenStack Cloud,SUSE CaaS Platform and SUSE Enterprise Storage.</div>
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<div class="">Please let me know why you thought there were no beta regcodes, maybe we could</div>
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<div class="">On 1 Jun 2019, at 00:46, Bernd Eckenfels <<a href="mailto:ecki@zusammenkunft.net" class="">ecki@zusammenkunft.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Well, first of all there is no registration code for beta tests and secondly I of course did not boot of media, but the VM starts from a image.</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Nevertheless it’s nearly unusable this way. (At least I don’t know how to zipper install postgres10-Server from the minimal system with the package dvd)</div>
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<b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag, Juni 1, 2019 12:18 AM<br class="">
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On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:32:41PM -0500, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> To address your issue with the package DVD, and having to shuffle DVDs.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> In production, most people just boot from the install disk, configure<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> networking, and point to their SMT server or register against SCC. The<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> online repositories are added, and that package DVD is not a requirement.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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Honestly, I'm shocked many people still boot off physical media for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> Thanks.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> On 5/31/19 3:27 PM, <a href="mailto:ecki@zusammenkunft.net" class="">ecki@zusammenkunft.net</a> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > Hello,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > I just wanted to give some Feedback while the beta Phase is running.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > I noticed that the installer allows to configure the cpu-vulnerabilities<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > Mitigation Level. Thats a nice touch – make Linux fast again.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > Probably not relevant for this SP, but a General Observation:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > * The package DVD should be bootable, no Need to juggle with two<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > „medias“ for offline (RHEL does that)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > * The fact that disk1-3 needs explanations (and the fact that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > install+packeg x Disc1-3 creates a big combination) „src“ +<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > „debuginfo“ should really be included in the file names to make it<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > intuitively understandable<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > When installing offline from the package DVD it Looks like the user is a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > bit left alone with no module descriptions and no Default selection<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > (base+sles+app). Thats really not very clear. Allso the „AddOn“ does not<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > detect a second DVD media automatically and it is displayed two times so<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
> > ist not clear if it wants a second add on or just confirmation.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > Other than that I havent found a Major Showstopper yet. Keep up the good<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > Gruss<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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> > Bernd<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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