From stbechto at cisco.com Thu Feb 14 09:02:03 2013 From: stbechto at cisco.com (Steve Bechtold (stbechto)) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:02:03 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> Message-ID: <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> Hi Daniele, the passcode in this attachment does not seem to work? Participant passcode: 9501623 Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:05 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Dear all, first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features in SLE 11 SP3: Thursday, February 14 17:00 CET 11:00 am EST 08:00 am PST 04:00 pm UTC/GMT (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for dial in information. Thanks Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From tim.luscher at convergys.com Thu Feb 14 09:09:24 2013 From: tim.luscher at convergys.com (Tim W Luscher) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:09:24 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> Message-ID: <66CB9E97BC5A0A43ABA26161E4444CD307619C@CDCMW45M.na.convergys.com> I cannot get in either Tim Luscher Desktop Engineering and Technical Services (DETS) Office: 801.736.3818 Mobile: 801.349.6439 mail to: tim.luscher at convergys.com SMS: DTE -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bechtold (stbechto) Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:02 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Hi Daniele, the passcode in this attachment does not seem to work? Participant passcode: 9501623 Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:05 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Dear all, first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features in SLE 11 SP3: Thursday, February 14 17:00 CET 11:00 am EST 08:00 am PST 04:00 pm UTC/GMT (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for dial in information. Thanks Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta ________________________________ NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by Convergys Corporation for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by telephone (collect), so that the sender's address records can be corrected. From stbechto at cisco.com Thu Feb 14 09:13:22 2013 From: stbechto at cisco.com (Steve Bechtold (stbechto)) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:13:22 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <66CB9E97BC5A0A43ABA26161E4444CD307619C@CDCMW45M.na.convergys.com> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> <66CB9E97BC5A0A43ABA26161E4444CD307619C@CDCMW45M.na.convergys.com> Message-ID: <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1B00@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> Tim, use the weblink. http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Tim W Luscher Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:09 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! I cannot get in either Tim Luscher Desktop Engineering and Technical Services (DETS) Office: 801.736.3818 Mobile: 801.349.6439 mail to: tim.luscher at convergys.com SMS: DTE -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bechtold (stbechto) Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:02 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Hi Daniele, the passcode in this attachment does not seem to work? Participant passcode: 9501623 Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:05 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Dear all, first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features in SLE 11 SP3: Thursday, February 14 17:00 CET 11:00 am EST 08:00 am PST 04:00 pm UTC/GMT (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for dial in information. Thanks Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta ________________________________ NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by Convergys Corporation for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by telephone (collect), so that the sender's address records can be corrected. _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From behlert at suse.de Thu Feb 14 09:15:54 2013 From: behlert at suse.de (Stefan Behlert) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:15:54 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> Message-ID: <20130214161554.GB7848@suse.de> Hi all, unfortuantely we had some short upcoming issues with the phone lines. While people are working on getting this solved, currently we only can provide the huddle event link. We are sorry for that. A recording of the call will be made available later. Stefan On Feb 14, 13 16:02:03 +0000, Steve Bechtold (stbechto) wrote: > Hi Daniele, the passcode in this attachment does not seem to work? > -- Stefan Behlert, SUSE LINUX Project Manager Enterprise Desktop Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany Phone +49-911-74053-173 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg; GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) From tim.luscher at convergys.com Thu Feb 14 09:16:15 2013 From: tim.luscher at convergys.com (Tim W Luscher) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:16:15 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1B00@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1AC0@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> <66CB9E97BC5A0A43ABA26161E4444CD307619C@CDCMW45M.na.convergys.com> <6A12E150C458554E9C93FB73CE6E3E87151B1B00@xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com> Message-ID: <66CB9E97BC5A0A43ABA26161E4444CD30761C6@CDCMW45M.na.convergys.com> I am in - thanks Tim Luscher Desktop Engineering and Technical Services (DETS) Office: 801.736.3818 Mobile: 801.349.6439 mail to: tim.luscher at convergys.com SMS: DTE -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bechtold (stbechto) Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:13 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Tim, use the weblink. http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Tim W Luscher Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:09 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! I cannot get in either Tim Luscher Desktop Engineering and Technical Services (DETS) Office: 801.736.3818 Mobile: 801.349.6439 mail to: tim.luscher at convergys.com SMS: DTE -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Steve Bechtold (stbechto) Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:02 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; Daniel Rahn (drahn at suse.com) Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Hi Daniele, the passcode in this attachment does not seem to work? Participant passcode: 9501623 Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:05 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Dear all, first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features in SLE 11 SP3: Thursday, February 14 17:00 CET 11:00 am EST 08:00 am PST 04:00 pm UTC/GMT (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for dial in information. Thanks Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta ________________________________ NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by Convergys Corporation for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by telephone (collect), so that the sender's address records can be corrected. _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta ________________________________ NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by Convergys Corporation for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by telephone (collect), so that the sender's address records can be corrected. From mkraft at suse.com Thu Feb 14 10:24:38 2013 From: mkraft at suse.com (Marcus Kraft) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:24:38 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 beta program kickoff call ready for replay Message-ID: <201302141824.38235.mkraft@suse.com> Dear participants, the recording of the SLE 11 SP3 beta kickoff call is now ready for replay. You can access it using the following URL: http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta The download location for the presentation will be posted soon. Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards, Marcus Kraft -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz From kukuk at suse.de Fri Feb 15 03:40:47 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:40:47 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Message-ID: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Dear Beta Tester, we are happy to announce SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources. Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be found in the same directory on the download servers. WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, you need a firmware update for these machines. Known issues: - FF17: Homepage is not set - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in xorg.conf. - UEFI/Secure Boot - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the ISO image on an USB stick (you must run "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we recommend the following setup: * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader Installation. Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" * exit Yast * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with "secure-boot = on" * run elilo * run elilo --refresh-EBM * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. Thanks in advance for all your testing Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From julien.foltier at laposte.fr Fri Feb 15 03:53:06 2013 From: julien.foltier at laposte.fr (FOLTIER Julien) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:53:06 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Message-ID: <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.laposte.fr> Hello, I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see anything. Can you help me ? Regards, Julien FOLTIER -----Message d'origine----- De?: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk Envoy??: vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 ??: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Objet?: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Dear Beta Tester, we are happy to announce SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources. Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be found in the same directory on the download servers. WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, you need a firmware update for these machines. Known issues: - FF17: Homepage is not set - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in xorg.conf. - UEFI/Secure Boot - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the ISO image on an USB stick (you must run "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we recommend the following setup: * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader Installation. Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" * exit Yast * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with "secure-boot = on" * run elilo * run elilo --refresh-EBM * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. Thanks in advance for all your testing Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta Post-scriptum La Poste Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement l'expediteur. From pszewczuk at suse.com Fri Feb 15 04:01:58 2013 From: pszewczuk at suse.com (Piotr Szewczuk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:01:58 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Odp: Re: [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.lapo ste.fr> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.lapo ste.fr> Message-ID: <511E23B6.0A26.00F2.1@suse.com> Hello, I have the same issue. Best regards, Piotr Szewczuk Piotr Szewczuk Konsultant SUSE ul. Post?pu 21, 02-676, Warszawa +48 22 537 5000 pszewczuk at suse.com >>> FOLTIER Julien 2013-02-15 11:53 >>> Hello, I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see anything. Can you help me ? Regards, Julien FOLTIER -----Message d'origine----- De : sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk Envoy? : vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 ? : sles-beta at lists.suse.com Objet : [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Dear Beta Tester, we are happy to announce SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources. Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be found in the same directory on the download servers. WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, you need a firmware update for these machines. Known issues: - FF17: Homepage is not set - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in xorg.conf. - UEFI/Secure Boot - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the ISO image on an USB stick (you must run "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we recommend the following setup: * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader Installation. Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" * exit Yast * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with "secure-boot = on" * run elilo * run elilo --refresh-EBM * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. Thanks in advance for all your testing Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta Post-scriptum La Poste Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpg Size: 3149 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Frank.Lichtenheld at Sophos.com Fri Feb 15 04:05:38 2013 From: Frank.Lichtenheld at Sophos.com (Frank Lichtenheld) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:05:38 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.laposte.fr> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.laposte.fr> Message-ID: <9C7389C8A12BF14693BB775D010D7BF312156EE4@de-wie-exch3b.green.sophos> Works for me if you instead go via "Downloads Home" -> "My restricted downloads" -> "betas" > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of FOLTIER Julien > Sent: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 11:53 > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > Hello, > > I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? > I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see > anything. > > Can you help me ? > > > Regards, > > Julien FOLTIER > > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk > Envoy??: vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 > ??: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Objet?: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > > Dear Beta Tester, > > we are happy to announce > > SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the > sources. > > Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be > found in the same directory on the download servers. > > > WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using > UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. > This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, > you need a firmware update for these machines. > > > Known issues: > - FF17: Homepage is not set > - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV > 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. > Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in > xorg.conf. > - UEFI/Secure Boot > - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there > is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the > boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot > disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the > ISO image on an USB stick (you must run > "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image > on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI > firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. > - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation > of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. > To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we > recommend the following setup: > * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with > UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) > * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader > Installation. > Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in > "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" > * exit Yast > * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" > * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with > "secure-boot = on" > * run elilo > * run elilo --refresh-EBM > * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware > * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting > "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. > > > Thanks in advance for all your testing > > Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products > GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > Post-scriptum La Poste > > Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par > ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un > engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou > diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous > n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement > l'expediteur. > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com Fri Feb 15 04:09:27 2013 From: Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com (Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE)) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:09:27 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <9C7389C8A12BF14693BB775D010D7BF312156EE4@de-wie-exch3b.green.sophos> Message-ID: I don't see beta under my restricted downloads. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE ? 787-503-2704 ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Lichtenheld [mailto:Frank.Lichtenheld at Sophos.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 06:05 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Works for me if you instead go via "Downloads Home" -> "My restricted downloads" -> "betas" > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of FOLTIER Julien > Sent: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 11:53 > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > Hello, > > I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? > I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see > anything. > > Can you help me ? > > > Regards, > > Julien FOLTIER > > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk > Envoy??: vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 > ??: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Objet?: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > > Dear Beta Tester, > > we are happy to announce > > SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the > sources. > > Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be > found in the same directory on the download servers. > > > WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using > UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. > This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, > you need a firmware update for these machines. > > > Known issues: > - FF17: Homepage is not set > - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV > 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. > Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in > xorg.conf. > - UEFI/Secure Boot > - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there > is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the > boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot > disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the > ISO image on an USB stick (you must run > "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image > on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI > firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. > - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation > of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. > To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we > recommend the following setup: > * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with > UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) > * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader > Installation. > Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in > "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" > * exit Yast > * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" > * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with > "secure-boot = on" > * run elilo > * run elilo --refresh-EBM > * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware > * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting > "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. > > > Thanks in advance for all your testing > > Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products > GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > Post-scriptum La Poste > > Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par > ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un > engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou > diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous > n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement > l'expediteur. > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From kukuk at suse.de Fri Feb 15 04:10:46 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:10:46 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Message-ID: <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> Hi, On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the beta coordinator if you have issues. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From pszewczuk at suse.com Fri Feb 15 04:12:25 2013 From: pszewczuk at suse.com (Piotr Szewczuk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:12:25 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Odp: Re: [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <9C7389C8A12BF14693BB775D010D7BF312156EE4@de-wie-exch3b.green.sophos> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <02954CD80554BB4AA0977E7110B60C7223568DE0@RPN00152.melposte.log.intra.laposte.fr> <9C7389C8A12BF14693BB775D010D7BF312156EE4@de-wie-exch3b.green.sophos> Message-ID: <511E2629.0A26.00F2.1@suse.com> Hello, Thanks, it works with download page. Best Regards, Piotr Szewczuk Piotr Szewczuk Konsultant SUSE ul. Post?pu 21, 02-676, Warszawa +48 22 537 5000 pszewczuk at suse.com >>> Frank Lichtenheld 2013-02-15 12:05 >>> Works for me if you instead go via "Downloads Home" -> "My restricted downloads" -> "betas" > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of FOLTIER Julien > Sent: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 11:53 > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > Hello, > > I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? > I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see > anything. > > Can you help me ? > > > Regards, > > Julien FOLTIER > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk > Envoy? : vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 > ? : sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Objet : [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > > Dear Beta Tester, > > we are happy to announce > > SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the > sources. > > Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be > found in the same directory on the download servers. > > > WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using > UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. > This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, > you need a firmware update for these machines. > > > Known issues: > - FF17: Homepage is not set > - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV > 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. > Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in > xorg.conf. > - UEFI/Secure Boot > - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there > is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the > boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot > disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the > ISO image on an USB stick (you must run > "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image > on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI > firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. > - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation > of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. > To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we > recommend the following setup: > * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with > UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) > * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader > Installation. > Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in > "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" > * exit Yast > * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" > * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with > "secure-boot = on" > * run elilo > * run elilo --refresh-EBM > * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware > * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting > "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. > > > Thanks in advance for all your testing > > Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products > GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > Post-scriptum La Poste > > Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par > ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un > engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou > diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous > n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement > l'expediteur. > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpg Size: 3149 bytes Desc: not available URL: From urs.frey at post.ch Fri Feb 15 04:13:57 2013 From: urs.frey at post.ch (urs.frey at post.ch) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:13:57 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> Message-ID: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A6DB@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Hi Thank you very much for your efforts. Still something wrong with the beta downloads Novell Downloads We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. You are not authorized to access this item. Best regards Urs Frey????????????????????????????????????????????? Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX???? : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail:?? urs.frey at post.ch -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 12:11 An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Hi, On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the beta coordinator if you have issues. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From jozef.janec at hp.com Fri Feb 15 04:14:03 2013 From: jozef.janec at hp.com (Janec, Jozef) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:14:03 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> Message-ID: Hi, It looks there is some problem, because I cann't download it from the link below, and on the beta page is information that I don't have registration in the beta program ;( my login is jojan Best regards Jozef -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Thorsten Kukuk Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:11 PM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Hi, On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the beta coordinator if you have issues. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com Fri Feb 15 04:16:28 2013 From: Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com (Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE)) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:16:28 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> Message-ID: Link worked! Thanks. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE ? 787-503-2704 ----- Original Message ----- From: Thorsten Kukuk [mailto:kukuk at suse.de] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 06:10 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Hi, On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the beta coordinator if you have issues. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Frank.Belau at o-s.de Fri Feb 15 04:17:14 2013 From: Frank.Belau at o-s.de (Frank.Belau at o-s.de) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:17:14 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Message-ID: Hello since today morning i don't have also no regristration for the Beta-Program. , and I can also download the files Mit freundlichen Gr??en/best regards Frank Belau ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ operational services GmbH & Co. KG System Analytiker D-02977 Hoyerswerda Telefon/phone +49 (0) 3571-43-6393 Telefax/telefax +49 (0) 3571-43-6383 Mailto:frank.belau at o-s.de http://www.operational-services.de > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 11:41 > An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Betreff: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > > Dear Beta Tester, > > we are happy to announce > > SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the > sources. > > Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can > be found in the same directory on the download servers. > > > WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using > UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly > unuseable. > This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, > you need a firmware update for these machines. > > > Known issues: > - FF17: Homepage is not set > - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV > 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. > Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in > xorg.conf. > - UEFI/Secure Boot > - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there > is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the > boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot > disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the > ISO image on an USB stick (you must run > "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image > on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI > firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. > - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation > of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot > mode. > To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we > recommend the following setup: > * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with > UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) > * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader > Installation. > Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in > "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" > * exit Yast > * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" > * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with > "secure-boot = on" > * run elilo > * run elilo --refresh-EBM > * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware > * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting > "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. > > > Thanks in advance for all your testing > > Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX > Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com Fri Feb 15 04:17:58 2013 From: Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com (Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE)) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:17:58 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got new error: We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. You are not authorized to access the item. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE ? 787-503-2704 ----- Original Message ----- From: Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 06:16 AM To: 'sles-beta at lists.suse.com' Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Link worked! Thanks. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE ? 787-503-2704 ----- Original Message ----- From: Thorsten Kukuk [mailto:kukuk at suse.de] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 06:10 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Hi, On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the beta coordinator if you have issues. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk Fri Feb 15 04:18:53 2013 From: andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Foulsham) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:18:53 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A6DB@HXMB12.pnet.ch> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A6DB@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Message-ID: <1360927133.4428.5.camel@falcon.imm.ox.ac.uk> I get the same response when clicking "Proceed to download" from the page posted in Thorsten's most recent message. What's the email address of the beta coordinator? I'm afraid I didn't note it from yesterday's call. Best wishes, Andrew Foulsham On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:13 +0000, urs.frey at post.ch wrote: > Hi > > Thank you very much for your efforts. Still something wrong with the beta downloads > > Novell Downloads > We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > > You are not authorized to access this item. > > Best regards > > Urs Frey > Die Schweizerische Post > Services > Informationstechnologie > Webergutstrasse 12 > 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 12:11 > An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > > Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: > > http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ > > Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the > beta coordinator if you have issues. > > Thorsten > From pczanik at genesi-usa.com Fri Feb 15 04:30:08 2013 From: pczanik at genesi-usa.com (Peter Czanik) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:30:08 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <1360927133.4428.5.camel@falcon.imm.ox.ac.uk> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A6DB@HXMB12.pnet.ch> <1360927133.4428.5.camel@falcon.imm.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <511E1C40.9070303@genesi-usa.com> Hello, I also get: " We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. You are not authorized to access this item. " The e-mail of the beta coordinator is available at the bottom of the page http://www.novell.com/beta/auth/select_beta.jsp I tried to e-mail him, no response yet. Bye, CzP On 02/15/2013 12:18 PM, Andrew Foulsham wrote: > I get the same response when clicking "Proceed to download" from the > page posted in Thorsten's most recent message. > What's the email address of the beta coordinator? I'm afraid I didn't > note it from yesterday's call. > > Best wishes, > > Andrew Foulsham > > On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:13 +0000, urs.frey at post.ch wrote: >> Hi >> >> Thank you very much for your efforts. Still something wrong with the beta downloads >> >> Novell Downloads >> We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. >> >> You are not authorized to access this item. >> >> Best regards >> >> Urs Frey >> Die Schweizerische Post >> Services >> Informationstechnologie >> Webergutstrasse 12 >> 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) >> Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 >> FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 >> E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch >> >> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk >> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 12:11 >> An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com >> Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available >> >> >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >> >>> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to >>> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". >>> Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. >> If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: >> >> http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ >> >> Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the >> beta coordinator if you have issues. >> >> Thorsten >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From gjn at gjn.priv.at Fri Feb 15 04:30:49 2013 From: gjn at gjn.priv.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_J=2E?= Niederwimmer) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:30:49 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Message-ID: <1687627.nSLuXxJm6p@techz> Hello I am also deleted from the Beta SP3. -- mit freundlichen Gr??en / best Regards. G?nther J. Niederwimmer From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Fri Feb 15 04:31:37 2013 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:31:37 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> Message-ID: <511E1C99.60309@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> On 15/02/2013 11:10, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > >> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to >> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". >> Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: > > http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ > > Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the > beta coordinator if you have issues. > > Thorsten > ------------- The above URL works. What does not work for me is Downloads menus (restricted etc) nor the My Betas entry from the main web page Downloads list. From urs.frey at post.ch Fri Feb 15 04:10:38 2013 From: urs.frey at post.ch (urs.frey at post.ch) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:10:38 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> Message-ID: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A6C5@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Hi On my beta page I can currently not see any SLES Beta downloads ----------------------- Novell Beta Program freyurs has access to these beta products Authorized Beta Products: You are not currently participating in any authorized beta programs at this time. ------------------------ Best regards Urs Frey????????????????????????????????????????????? Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX???? : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail:?? urs.frey at post.ch -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 11:41 An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Betreff: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Dear Beta Tester, we are happy to announce SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources. Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be found in the same directory on the download servers. WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, you need a firmware update for these machines. Known issues: - FF17: Homepage is not set - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in xorg.conf. - UEFI/Secure Boot - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the ISO image on an USB stick (you must run "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we recommend the following setup: * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader Installation. Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" * exit Yast * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with "secure-boot = on" * run elilo * run elilo --refresh-EBM * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. Thanks in advance for all your testing Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br Fri Feb 15 04:45:46 2013 From: braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Br=C3=A1ulio_Weimann_Gergull?=) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:45:46 -0300 Subject: [sles-beta] =?utf-8?q?=5BANNOUNCE=5D_SLES_11_SP3_Beta1_available?= In-Reply-To: <511E1C40.9070303@genesi-usa.com> References: <511E1C40.9070303@genesi-usa.com> Message-ID: <20130215114551.707EE9007A@lists.suse.com> Hello, I can reach the download page, but I can´t download the ISO, the following error is displayed: Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404 novell.download.akamai.com Fri Feb 15 04:44:35 2013 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Bráulio Weimann Gergull Open Consult - Novell Platinum Partner braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br 55 21 9887-8889 Em 15/02/2013, Peter Czanik <pczanik at genesi-usa.com> escreveu: > Hello, > I also get: > " > We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > > You are not authorized to access this item. > " > The e-mail of the beta coordinator is available at the bottom of the > page http://www.novell.com/beta/auth/select_beta.jsp I tried to e-mail > him, no response yet. > Bye, > CzP > > On 02/15/2013 12:18 PM, Andrew Foulsham wrote: > > I get the same response when clicking "Proceed to download" from the > > page posted in Thorsten's most recent message. > > What's the email address of the beta coordinator? I'm afraid I didn't > > note it from yesterday's call. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Andrew Foulsham > > > > On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:13 +0000, urs.frey at post.ch wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Thank you very much for your efforts. Still something wrong with the beta downloads > >> > >> Novell Downloads > >> We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > >> > >> You are not authorized to access this item. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Urs Frey > >> Die Schweizerische Post > >> Services > >> Informationstechnologie > >> Webergutstrasse 12 > >> 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > >> Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > >> FAX    : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > >> E-Mail:  urs.frey at post.ch > >> > >> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 12:11 > >> An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > >> Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > >> > >>> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > >>> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > >>> Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > >> If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: > >> > >> http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ > >> > >> Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the > >> beta coordinator if you have issues. > >> > >>    Thorsten > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sles-beta mailing list > > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From es at h4t.it Fri Feb 15 06:08:01 2013 From: es at h4t.it (Ettore Simone) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:08:01 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <20130215114551.707EE9007A@lists.suse.com> References: <511E1C40.9070303@genesi-usa.com> <20130215114551.707EE9007A@lists.suse.com> Message-ID: <4494F4DC-5436-4550-B91C-1241308FD811@h4t.it> Hi! Same behavior: Object not found! Regards, Ettore Simone On 15/02/2013, at 12:45, Br?ulio Weimann Gergull wrote: > Hello, > > I can reach the download page, but I can?t download the ISO, the following error is displayed: > > Object not found! > > The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > Error 404 > > novell.download.akamai.com > Fri Feb 15 04:44:35 2013 > Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) > > > > Br?ulio Weimann Gergull > Open Consult - Novell Platinum Partner > braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br > 55 21 9887-8889 > Em 15/02/2013, Peter Czanik escreveu: > > Hello, > > I also get: > > " > > We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > > > > You are not authorized to access this item. > > " > > The e-mail of the beta coordinator is available at the bottom of the > > page http://www.novell.com/beta/auth/select_beta.jsp I tried to e-mail > > him, no response yet. > > Bye, > > CzP > > > > On 02/15/2013 12:18 PM, Andrew Foulsham wrote: > > > I get the same response when clicking "Proceed to download" from the > > > page posted in Thorsten's most recent message. > > > What's the email address of the beta coordinator? I'm afraid I didn't > > > note it from yesterday's call. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Andrew Foulsham > > > > > > On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:13 +0000, urs.frey at post.ch wrote: > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> Thank you very much for your efforts. Still something wrong with the beta downloads > > >> > > >> Novell Downloads > > >> We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > > >> > > >> You are not authorized to access this item. > > >> > > >> Best regards > > >> > > >> Urs Frey > > >> Die Schweizerische Post > > >> Services > > >> Informationstechnologie > > >> Webergutstrasse 12 > > >> 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > > >> Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > > >> FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > > >> E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > > >> Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Thorsten Kukuk > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 12:11 > > >> An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > >> Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > > >> > > >>> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > > >>> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". > > >>> Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > >> If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: > > >> > > >> http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ > > >> > > >> Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the > > >> beta coordinator if you have issues. > > >> > > >> Thorsten > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sles-beta mailing list > > > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sles-beta mailing list > > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta_______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta --------------------------------------------- Ettore Simone --------------------------------------------- H4T s.r.l. Viale Giuseppe Mazzini, 8 41058 Vignola (MO) - Italia tel. +39 059 762459 fax +39 059 7700090 http://h4t.it mailto: info at h4t.it skype: esimone74 --------------------------------------------- From urs.frey at post.ch Fri Feb 15 07:15:07 2013 From: urs.frey at post.ch (urs.frey at post.ch) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:15:07 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> References: <20130207180443.GC16666@suse.de> Message-ID: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A7FA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Hello Uwe I am trying to download the SLES11-SP3 Beta1 from the indicated Novell download Site, but no luck so far This is, what I get, when logged in and viewing my- beta. Of course I can See SLES11-SP3 beta for download under this link, but when processing to download I am refused from downloading. Novell Beta Program freyurs has access to these beta products Authorized Beta Products: > You are not currently participating in any authorized beta programs at this time. Public Beta Products: Novell Service Desk 7 SUSE Manager Management Pack for Microsoft System Center 2012 Novell ZENworks Mobile Management 2.7 Public Beta *Note: If you do not see a beta product listed you have been authorized for, please contact the Beta Management Team by clicking here: I have already filled out my application for the SLES11-SP3 beta program: This is also the reason why I am on the sles_beta_list and why I got invitations for the kick-off Feb14th and the download for SLES11-SP3-beta1 =============== Hi Uwe Thank you very much for your invitation. I would like to participate on: - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Name (First- and Lastname): Urs Frey Company: Die Schweizerische Post Country: Switzerland Email Address: urs.frey at post.ch Your SUSE contact (if known): Torsten Hallmann (Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com) Novell account eLogin): freyurs (you can create it at https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp ) and the Beta you want to test: [x] SLES 11 SP3 : yes - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 [ ] SLED 11 SP3 [ ] SLE 11 HA SP3 Best regards Urs Frey Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch =============== Thank you for your help Best regards Urs Frey????????????????????????????????????????????? Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX???? : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail:?? urs.frey at post.ch -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Uwe Drechsel Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 19:05 An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Betreff: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Dear all, first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features in SLE 11 SP3: Thursday, February 14 17:00 CET 11:00 am EST 08:00 am PST 04:00 pm UTC/GMT (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 Password is: mysusebeta There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for dial in information. Thanks Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br Fri Feb 15 07:18:38 2013 From: braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Br=C3=A1ulio_Weimann_Gergull?=) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:18:38 -0300 Subject: [sles-beta] =?utf-8?q?SLE_11_SP3_Beta_1_-_welcome!?= In-Reply-To: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A7FA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> References: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A7FA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Message-ID: <20130215141843.D3B4290058@lists.suse.com> Same here. Bráulio Weimann Gergull Open Consult - Novell Platinum Partner Em 15/02/2013, <urs.frey at post.ch> escreveu: > Hello Uwe > > I am trying to download the SLES11-SP3 Beta1 from the indicated Novell download Site, but no luck so far > This is, what I get, when logged in and viewing my- beta. > Of course I can See SLES11-SP3 beta for download under this link, but when processing to download I am refused from downloading. > > Novell Beta Program > freyurs has access to these beta products > Authorized Beta Products: > > You are not currently participating in any authorized beta programs at this time. > > Public Beta Products: > Novell Service Desk 7 > SUSE Manager Management Pack for Microsoft System Center 2012 > Novell ZENworks Mobile Management 2.7 Public Beta > > *Note: If you do not see a beta product listed you have been authorized for, please contact the Beta Management Team by clicking here: > > I have already filled out my application for the SLES11-SP3 beta program: > This is also the reason why I am on the sles_beta_list and why I got invitations for the kick-off Feb14th and the download for SLES11-SP3-beta1 > > =============== > Hi Uwe > > Thank you very much for your invitation. > I would like to participate on: > > - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 > > Name (First- and Lastname): Urs Frey > Company:    Die Schweizerische Post > Country:    Switzerland > Email Address:  urs.frey at post.ch > Your SUSE contact (if known): Torsten Hallmann (Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com) > Novell account eLogin): freyurs > (you can create it at https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp ) > > and the Beta you want to test: > > [x] SLES 11 SP3  : yes - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 > [ ] SLED 11 SP3 > [ ] SLE 11 HA SP3 > > Best regards > > > Urs Frey                                              > Die Schweizerische Post > Services > Informationstechnologie > Webergutstrasse 12 > 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > FAX    : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > E-Mail:  urs.frey at post.ch > > =============== > Thank you for your help > Best regards > > Urs Frey                                              > Die Schweizerische Post > Services > Informationstechnologie > Webergutstrasse 12 > 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > FAX     : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > E-Mail:   urs.frey at post.ch > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Uwe Drechsel > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 19:05 > An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com > Betreff: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! > > Dear all, > > first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of > >           SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 > > We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we > highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our > Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features > in SLE 11 SP3: > > Thursday, February 14 > > 17:00 CET > 11:00 am EST > 08:00 am PST > 04:00 pm UTC/GMT > > (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) > > The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): > > http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 > Password is: mysusebeta > > There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for > dial in information. > > > Thanks > Uwe Drechsel > > -- > SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager                > SUSE Linux Products GmbH > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkraft at suse.com Fri Feb 15 07:30:20 2013 From: mkraft at suse.com (Marcus Kraft) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:30:20 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues Message-ID: <201302151530.20127.mkraft@suse.com> Dear beta test participants, work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues for several participants. For those who already have reported these issues to the mailing list, we will follow up according to name and email address. All other participants trying to get access and download the beta code please check the following requirements: * Valid Novell Login * Access to Authorized Beta * Entitlement 'Submit Service Request' * To access download, please use the http://www.novell.com/beta/ web page. Please confirm to have a valid Novell Login or create one. If you experience access issues, here is an 'Access Checklist': http://www.novell.com/beta/ -> View My Beta Page * Authorized Beta Products page - You should see 'Authorized Beta Products:' - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 - SUSE Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension 11 SP3 - SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 SP3 - If above categories are not displayed, please apply or re-apply for 'Authorized Beta'. To complement the list, and if you like to submit service requests: * Check 'Submit Service Request' - 'Service Request' page should display a specific entry for Groups/'Entitled Accounts': BETA TEST: SLE* 11 SP3 If any of these steps should fail, please report access and logistic issues via email to Uwe Drechsel, Beta Test Manager, at beta-programs at suse.de. We apologize for the inconvenience and continue to work on its resolution. Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz From H.Koenig at science-computing.de Fri Feb 15 07:20:41 2013 From: H.Koenig at science-computing.de (Harald Koenig) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:20:41 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <4494F4DC-5436-4550-B91C-1241308FD811@h4t.it> References: <511E1C40.9070303@genesi-usa.com> <20130215114551.707EE9007A@lists.suse.com> <4494F4DC-5436-4550-B91C-1241308FD811@h4t.it> Message-ID: <20130215142041.GB10003@atuin.science-computing.de> On Feb 15, Ettore Simone wrote: > Hi! > > Same behavior: Object not found! me too: The SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 beta program is not active at this time. Please contact your Beta Manager for more information. and download is not possible via new link: You are not authorized to access this item Harald Koenig -- "I hope to die ___ _____ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.", 0--,| /OOOOOOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen. <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\ \ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\ \ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|// Harald Koenig \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ science+computing ag // / \\ \ koenig at science-computing.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^ -- Vorstandsvorsitzender/Chairman of the board of management: Gerd-Lothar Leonhart Vorstand/Board of Management: Dr. Bernd Finkbeiner, Michael Heinrichs, Dr. Arno Steitz, Dr. Ingrid Zech Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Philippe Miltin Sitz/Registered Office: Tuebingen Registergericht/Registration Court: Stuttgart Registernummer/Commercial Register No.: HRB 382196 From mail at marcusmoeller.ch Fri Feb 15 04:17:30 2013 From: mail at marcusmoeller.ch (Marcus Moeller) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:17:30 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <511E18B8.7030503@siemens-enterprise.com> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> <511E18B8.7030503@siemens-enterprise.com> Message-ID: <511E194A.1050502@marcusmoeller.ch> Am 15.02.2013 12:15, schrieb Lawton Bonnevialle: > Hi ALL; > > I can see the ISOs, but not download: > > > Novell Downloads > > > We're sorry, we are unable to complete the download at this time. > > You are not authorized to access this item. Same here. Greets Marcus > Please refer to Novell's Entitlement and Access Policy > . If you feel you have > received this message in error, please click here to contact Novell > Customer Resolution > . > > If you would like to purchase, renew or inquire about maintenance for > your product, please request a sales call > and one > of our Sales Representatives will contact and assist you. > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en > > Lawton Bonnevialle > *Siemens Enterprise Communications* > Curitiba - Brazil > Email: lawton.silva at siemens-enterprise.com > > Phone:+55 (41) 3341 6228 > Fax :+55 (41) 3341 5594 > > > > > On 02/15/2013 09:10 AM, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Feb 15, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: >> >>> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to >>> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". >>> Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. >> If you cannot find it there, you could try the following link: >> >> http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=Sxpw4kSjjSg~ >> >> Maybe that helps. I cannot fix anything, please contact the >> beta coordinator if you have issues. >> >> Thorsten >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > From developer at mivadev.com Fri Feb 15 07:35:42 2013 From: developer at mivadev.com (developer at mivadev.com) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:35:42 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Message-ID: <31516.1360938942@mivadev.com> To Suse Team, Thank you for the invite but when i go to the download site I do not get access to download anything and tellning me im not participating in any beta. Regards, Andrzej J. Waszkiewicz On Fri 13/02/15 03:40 , Thorsten Kukuk kukuk at suse.de sent: > > Dear Beta Tester, > > we are happy to announce > > SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 > > > ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to > http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my > beta page".Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. > > We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second > DVD the sources. > > Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can > be found in the same directory on the download servers. > > > WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using > UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. > This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, > you need a firmware update for these machines. > > > Known issues: > - FF17: Homepage is not set > - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on > "RV630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. > Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in > xorg.conf.- UEFI/Secure Boot > - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there > is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the > boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot > disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the > ISO image on an USB stick (you must run > "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO > imageon USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI > firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. > - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation > of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. > To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we > recommend the following setup: > * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with > UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) > * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader > Installation.Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in > "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" > * exit Yast > * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" > * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line > with"secure-boot = on" > * run elilo > * run elilo --refresh-EBM > * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI > firmware* your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting > "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. > > > Thanks in advance for all your testing > > Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > N?rnberg)_______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles > -beta at lists.suse.comhttp://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > From jeff.chapman at pervasive.com Fri Feb 15 07:20:57 2013 From: jeff.chapman at pervasive.com (Jeff Chapman) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:20:57 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! In-Reply-To: <20130215141843.D3B4290058@lists.suse.com> References: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A7FA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> <20130215141843.D3B4290058@lists.suse.com> Message-ID: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A97DAAD@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> Same for me too. Jeff Chapman QA Architect Database Division [Description: Description: Description: Pervasive Software] Tel: 512.231.6548 Main: 800.287.4383 Fax: 512.231.6010 Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway Austin, TX 78727 http://www.pervasive.com/ From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Br?ulio Weimann Gergull Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 8:19 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! Same here. Br?ulio Weimann Gergull Open Consult - Novell Platinum Partner Em 15/02/2013, > escreveu: > Hello Uwe > > I am trying to download the SLES11-SP3 Beta1 from the indicated Novell download Site, but no luck so far > This is, what I get, when logged in and viewing my- beta. > Of course I can See SLES11-SP3 beta for download under this link, but when processing to download I am refused from downloading. > > Novell Beta Program > freyurs has access to these beta products > Authorized Beta Products: > > You are not currently participating in any authorized beta programs at this time. > > Public Beta Products: > Novell Service Desk 7 > SUSE Manager Management Pack for Microsoft System Center 2012 > Novell ZENworks Mobile Management 2.7 Public Beta > > *Note: If you do not see a beta product listed you have been authorized for, please contact the Beta Management Team by clicking here: > > I have already filled out my application for the SLES11-SP3 beta program: > This is also the reason why I am on the sles_beta_list and why I got invitations for the kick-off Feb14th and the download for SLES11-SP3-beta1 > > =============== > Hi Uwe > > Thank you very much for your invitation. > I would like to participate on: > > - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 > > Name (First- and Lastname): Urs Frey > Company: Die Schweizerische Post > Country: Switzerland > Email Address: urs.frey at post.ch > Your SUSE contact (if known): Torsten Hallmann (Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com) > Novell account eLogin): freyurs > (you can create it at https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createAccount.jsp ) > > and the Beta you want to test: > > [x] SLES 11 SP3 : yes - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 > [ ] SLED 11 SP3 > [ ] SLE 11 HA SP3 > > Best regards > > > Urs Frey > Die Schweizerische Post > Services > Informationstechnologie > Webergutstrasse 12 > 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch > > =============== > Thank you for your help > Best regards > > Urs Frey > Die Schweizerische Post > Services > Informationstechnologie > Webergutstrasse 12 > 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) > Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 > FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 > E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Uwe Drechsel > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 19:05 > An: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com > Betreff: [sles-beta] SLE 11 SP3 Beta 1 - welcome! > > Dear all, > > first let me officially welcome you to the Beta Test of > > SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 > > We plan to have a call together with each Beta release, where we > highlight some topics. Let me invite you to the Kick Off call in our > Beta Test, where SUSE Linux product managers will present new features > in SLE 11 SP3: > > Thursday, February 14 > > 17:00 CET > 11:00 am EST > 08:00 am PST > 04:00 pm UTC/GMT > > (more timezones at http://bit.ly/12syhut ) > > The web presentation is done using Huddle (also for audio): > > http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64f3a3a63a79eb1831b0a2776bfd20d8 > Password is: mysusebeta > > There is also a (limited) number of phone lines, see attached file for > dial in information. > > > Thanks > Uwe Drechsel > > -- > SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager > SUSE Linux Products GmbH > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. 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From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Piotr Szewczuk Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:02 AM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Subject: [sles-beta] Odp: Re: [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Hello, I have the same issue. Best regards, Piotr Szewczuk Piotr Szewczuk Konsultant SUSE ul. Post?pu 21, 02-676, Warszawa +48 22 537 5000 pszewczuk at suse.com [cid:image001.jpg at 01CE0B5B.19E105B0] >>> FOLTIER Julien > 2013-02-15 11:53 >>> Hello, I don't see any products on my beta page. Is it normal ? I had SLES 11 SP3 in my authorized Beta Products, but now, I don't see anything. Can you help me ? Regards, Julien FOLTIER -----Message d'origine----- De : sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] De la part de Thorsten Kukuk Envoy? : vendredi 15 f?vrier 2013 11:41 ? : sles-beta at lists.suse.com Objet : [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Dear Beta Tester, we are happy to announce SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my beta page". Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources. Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can be found in the same directory on the download servers. WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, you need a firmware update for these machines. Known issues: - FF17: Homepage is not set - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on "RV 630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in xorg.conf. - UEFI/Secure Boot - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the ISO image on an USB stick (you must run "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO image on USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we recommend the following setup: * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader Installation. Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" * exit Yast * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line with "secure-boot = on" * run elilo * run elilo --refresh-EBM * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI firmware * your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. Thanks in advance for all your testing Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta Post-scriptum La Poste Ce message est confidentiel. Sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et La Poste, son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de La Poste. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. 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If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 404 novell.download.akamai.com Fri Feb 15 08:14:38 2013 Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) ========= >From my experience with SuSE beta this 404 indicates me, that the sync of the ISOs has not finished yet ========= Best regards Urs Frey????????????????????????????????????????????? Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX???? : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail:?? urs.frey at post.ch -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Marcus Kraft Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 15:30 An: sleha-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sles-beta at lists.suse.com Betreff: [sles-beta] Work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues Dear beta test participants, work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues for several participants. For those who already have reported these issues to the mailing list, we will follow up according to name and email address. All other participants trying to get access and download the beta code please check the following requirements: * Valid Novell Login * Access to Authorized Beta * Entitlement 'Submit Service Request' * To access download, please use the http://www.novell.com/beta/ web page. Please confirm to have a valid Novell Login or create one. If you experience access issues, here is an 'Access Checklist': http://www.novell.com/beta/ -> View My Beta Page * Authorized Beta Products page - You should see 'Authorized Beta Products:' - SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 - SUSE Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension 11 SP3 - SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 SP3 - If above categories are not displayed, please apply or re-apply for 'Authorized Beta'. To complement the list, and if you like to submit service requests: * Check 'Submit Service Request' - 'Service Request' page should display a specific entry for Groups/'Entitled Accounts': BETA TEST: SLE* 11 SP3 If any of these steps should fail, please report access and logistic issues via email to Uwe Drechsel, Beta Test Manager, at beta-programs at suse.de. We apologize for the inconvenience and continue to work on its resolution. Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From pczanik at genesi-usa.com Fri Feb 15 08:37:49 2013 From: pczanik at genesi-usa.com (pczanik at genesi-usa.com) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:37:49 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues In-Reply-To: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A885@HXMB12.pnet.ch> References: <201302151530.20127.mkraft@suse.com> <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E21A885@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Message-ID: <511E564D.5050906@genesi-usa.com> Hello, On 02/15/2013 04:17 PM, urs.frey at post.ch wrote: > But from there I get > > Object not found! > The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > Error 404 > Same problem over here. I get to the download page, but then "object not found!" Bye, CzP From mail at marcusmoeller.ch Fri Feb 15 07:39:32 2013 From: mail at marcusmoeller.ch (Marcus Moeller) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:39:32 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <31516.1360938942@mivadev.com> References: <31516.1360938942@mivadev.com> Message-ID: <511E48A4.2000501@marcusmoeller.ch> Am 15.02.2013 15:35, schrieb developer at mivadev.com: > To Suse Team, > Thank you for the invite but when i go to the download site I do not get access to download anything and tellning me im not participating in > any beta. > Regards, > Andrzej J. Waszkiewicz This has one benefit: Now we all know each other ;) Greets Marcus > On Fri 13/02/15 03:40 , Thorsten Kukuk kukuk at suse.de sent: >> >> Dear Beta Tester, >> >> we are happy to announce >> >> SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 Beta1 >> >> >> ISO images are now available for download now. Please go to >> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View my >> beta page".Here you should see all Beta's you are part of. >> >> We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second >> DVD the sources. >> >> Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using the MD5SUMS file, which can >> be found in the same directory on the download servers. >> >> >> WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which are buggy and using >> UEFI on these machines can make your machine completly unuseable. >> This is nothing we can fix or workaround with our product, >> you need a firmware update for these machines. >> >> >> Known issues: >> - FF17: Homepage is not set >> - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon (KMS), especially on >> "RV630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" cards. >> Workaround: Use kernel option "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in >> xorg.conf.- UEFI/Secure Boot >> - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot mode enabled, but there >> is an issue preventing correctly loading installer later in the >> boot process (it might also affect UEFI system with Secure Boot >> disabled). To workaround this issue, we recommend to dump the >> ISO image on an USB stick (you must run >> "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping the ISO >> imageon USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't be recognized by UEFI >> firmware properly). Only DVD image can be dumped to USB Stick. >> - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo prevent proper installation >> of shim loader, needed to boot installed system in Secure Boot mode. >> To properly install a system on a Secure Boot system, for Beta1, we >> recommend the following setup: >> * disable Secure Boot, install the system (make sure to boot with >> UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS mode) >> * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader / Boot Loader >> Installation.Make sure "ELILO" is selected as Bootloader and in >> "Boot Loader Options", check "Support Secure Boot" >> * exit Yast >> * as root run "zypper in shim grub2-x86_64-efi" >> * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and replace "secure-boot" line >> with"secure-boot = on" >> * run elilo >> * run elilo --refresh-EBM >> * reboot your system and enable "Secure Boot" in UEFI >> firmware* your system should now boot in Secure Boot mode, when selecting >> "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3" in EFI Boot Menu. >> >> >> Thanks in advance for all your testing >> >> Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team >> -- >> Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES >> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg >> GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG >> N?rnberg)_______________________________________________ >> sles-beta mailing list >> sles >> -beta at lists.suse.comhttp://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > From developer at mivadev.com Fri Feb 15 13:27:40 2013 From: developer at mivadev.com (developer at mivadev.com) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:27:40 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available Message-ID: <14158.1360960060@mivadev.com> I agree. So i finally see the link for Suse Enterprise linux but when i click it nothing shows up in the download area. Regards, Andrzej J. Waszkiewicz On Fri 13/02/15 07:39 , Marcus Moeller mail at marcusmoeller.ch sent: > Am 15.02.2013 15:35, schrieb develop > er at mivadev.com:> To Suse Team, > > Thank you for the invite but when i go to the > download site I do not get access to download anything and tellning me im > not participating in> any beta. > > Regards, > > Andrzej J. Waszkiewicz > > This has one benefit: Now we all know each other ;) > > Greets > Marcus > > > On Fri 13/02/15 03:40 , Thorsten Kukuk kukuk at suse.de sent:>> > >> Dear Beta Tester, > >> > >> we are happy to announce > >> > >> SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP3 > Beta1>> > >> > >> ISO images are now available for download > now. Please go to>> http://www.novell.com/beta and select "View > my>> beta page".Here you should see all > Beta's you are part of.>> > >> We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the > binaries, the second>> DVD the sources. > >> > >> Please verify the md5sum of the ISO using > the MD5SUMS file, which can>> be found in the same directory on the > download servers.>> > >> > >> WARNING: There are UEFI firmwares out, which > are buggy and using>> UEFI on these machines can make your machine > completly unuseable.>> This is nothing we can fix or workaround > with our product,>> you need a firmware update for these > machines.>> > >> > >> Known issues: > >> - FF17: Homepage is not set > >> - some old ATI cards have issues with radeon > (KMS), especially on>> "RV630/Radeon HD 2600 (1002:9589)" > cards.>> Workaround: Use kernel option > "nomodeset" and radeonhd driver in>> xorg.conf.- UEFI/Secure Boot > >> - DVD images can be booted with Secure Boot > mode enabled, but there>> is an issue preventing correctly loading > installer later in the>> boot process (it might also affect UEFI > system with Secure Boot>> disabled). To workaround this issue, we > recommend to dump the>> ISO image on an USB stick (you must > run>> "isohybrid --uefi " before dumping > the ISO>> imageon USB stick, otherwise USB Stick won't > be recognized by UEFI>> firmware properly). Only DVD image can be > dumped to USB Stick.>> - An inconsistency between YaST and elilo > prevent proper installation>> of shim loader, needed to boot installed > system in Secure Boot mode.>> To properly install a system on a Secure > Boot system, for Beta1, we>> recommend the following setup: > >> * disable Secure Boot, install the system > (make sure to boot with>> UEFI enabled and not legacy/BIOS > mode)>> * on installed system, in YaST / Boot Loader > / Boot Loader>> Installation.Make sure "ELILO" is > selected as Bootloader and in>> "Boot Loader Options", check > "Support Secure Boot">> * exit Yast > >> * as root run "zypper in shim > grub2-x86_64-efi">> * edit "/etc/elilo.conf" and > replace "secure-boot" line>> with"secure-boot = on" > >> * run elilo > >> * run elilo --refresh-EBM > >> * reboot your system and enable "Secure > Boot" in UEFI>> firmware* your system should now boot in > Secure Boot mode, when selecting>> "SB SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 > SP3" in EFI Boot Menu.>> > >> > >> Thanks in advance for all your > testing>> > >> Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team > >> -- > >> Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release > Manager SLES>> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, > D-90409 Nuernberg>> GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix > Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG>> > N?rnberg)_______________________________________________>> sles-beta mailing list > >> sles > >> -beta at lists. > suse.comhttp://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta>> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> sles-beta mailing list > > sles > -beta at lists.suse.com> http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta> > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles > -beta at lists.suse.comhttp://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > From dboyes at sinenomine.net Fri Feb 15 13:42:56 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:42:56 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] [ANNOUNCE] SLES 11 SP3 Beta1 available In-Reply-To: <511E194A.1050502@marcusmoeller.ch> References: <20130215104047.GA1756@suse.de> <20130215111046.GA2634@suse.de> <511E18B8.7030503@siemens-enterprise.com> <511E194A.1050502@marcusmoeller.ch> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3DE7EEC@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Same here. Opened support request to correspond. From uwedr at suse.com Fri Feb 15 14:07:10 2013 From: uwedr at suse.com (Uwe Drechsel) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:07:10 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Download issues Message-ID: <20130215210710.GH8301@suse.de> Dear participants, I'm sorry but we still face problems with the download of the betas. The IS&T team is working on a solution and I will drop another note when the betas are available. Thank you Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager tel: +49 911 74053-0 SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From abunk at axway.com Fri Feb 15 14:20:17 2013 From: abunk at axway.com (Alex Bunk) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:20:17 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Download issues In-Reply-To: <20130215210710.GH8301@suse.de> References: <20130215210710.GH8301@suse.de> Message-ID: Just wanted to let you all know that I've downloaded the first ISO I need successfully and just kicked off the 2nd ISO. --Alex -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:07 PM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] Download issues Dear participants, I'm sorry but we still face problems with the download of the betas. The IS&T team is working on a solution and I will drop another note when the betas are available. Thank you Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager tel: +49 911 74053-0 SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Stephan.Malbertz at bdguss.de Sat Feb 16 01:30:41 2013 From: Stephan.Malbertz at bdguss.de (Malbertz) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:30:41 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [SPAM] - Re: Download issues - E-Mail in Betreffzeile gefunden In-Reply-To: References: <20130215210710.GH8301@suse.de>, Message-ID: <9443838172F2464F9E16EB5CB5FB5F5B31B509DB81@mail.hdgt.local> i can download too, 12h left^ Mit freundlichen Gr??en i.A. Stephan Malbertz Bundesverband der Deutschen Gie?erei-Industrie Sohnstra?e 70, 40237 D?sseldorf Tel. +49 (0)211 6871 321 Fax +49 (0)211 6871 Mobil +49 (0)172 4080 280 E-Mail: stephan.malbertz at bdguss.de Internet: www.bdguss.de Vereinsregister beim Amtsgericht D?sseldorf, Nr. VR 3758 Pr?sident: Dr.Ing. Erwin Flender Gesch?ftsf?hrung: RA Gerhard Kl?gge, RA Max Schumacher, Dr.Ing. Erwin Flender Diese E-Mail einschlie?lich ihrer Anh?nge ist vertraulich und daher allein f?r den Gebrauch durch den vorgesehenen Empf?nger bestimmt. Dritten ist das Lesen, Verteilen oder Weiterleiten dieser E-Mail nur mit ausdr?cklicher Zustimmung erlaubt. Wir bitten, eine fehlgeleitete E-Mail unverz?glich vollst?ndig zu l?schen und uns eine Nachricht zukommen zu lassen. Sofern diese E-Mail oder ihre Anh?nge Informationen enthalten, die erkennbar von Dritten stammen, ?bernehmen der BDG, seine Gliederungen und T?chter keine Haftung f?r diese. Insbesondere macht sich der BDG diese Informationen nicht zu Eigen. This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. BDG, ________________________________________ Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] im Auftrag von Alex Bunk [abunk at axway.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2013 22:20 An: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Betreff: [SPAM] - Re: [sles-beta] Download issues - E-Mail in Betreffzeile gefunden Just wanted to let you all know that I've downloaded the first ISO I need successfully and just kicked off the 2nd ISO. --Alex -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Uwe Drechsel Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:07 PM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com; sled-beta at lists.suse.com; sleha-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] Download issues Dear participants, I'm sorry but we still face problems with the download of the betas. The IS&T team is working on a solution and I will drop another note when the betas are available. Thank you Uwe Drechsel -- SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager tel: +49 911 74053-0 SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From mkraft at suse.com Sat Feb 16 04:04:27 2013 From: mkraft at suse.com (Marcus Kraft) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:04:27 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Access and download issues resolved In-Reply-To: <201302151530.20127.mkraft@suse.com> References: <201302151530.20127.mkraft@suse.com> Message-ID: <201302161204.27661.mkraft@suse.com> Dear beta test participants, download and access issue should be resolved since this morning for SLES and SLED 11 SP3. SLE HA 11 SP3 is still in the works (although the link is already visible). Your SUSE Linux Enterprise Team Am Freitag 15 Februar 2013 15:30:20 schrieb Marcus Kraft: > Dear beta test participants, > > work is in progress to resolve the access and download issues > for several participants. For those who already have reported > these issues to the mailing list, we will follow up according > to name and email address. ... Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards, Marcus Kraft -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz From mkraft at suse.com Tue Feb 19 06:34:09 2013 From: mkraft at suse.com (Marcus Kraft) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:34:09 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [beta-programs] SLES 11 SP3 :: Samba In-Reply-To: <512372EA.1020305@siemens-enterprise.com> References: <512372EA.1020305@siemens-enterprise.com> Message-ID: <201302191434.09525.mkraft@suse.com> Lawton, SLE 11 SP3 has samba version 3.6.3. If other package versions are in interest, for a quick search, on each media (DVD1) there is a file INDEX.gz available with a listing of package path and version number, e.g: ~> zgrep samba INDEX.gz ./suse/noarch/yast2-samba-server-2.17.14-0.5.1.noarch.rpm ./suse/noarch/samba-doc-3.6.3-0.24.4.noarch.rpm ./suse/noarch/yast2-samba-client-2.17.22-0.7.39.noarch.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/sblim-cmpi-samba-0.5.6-0.2.58.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-winbind-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-winbind-32bit-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-client-32bit-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-client-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-krb-printing-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm ./suse/x86_64/samba-32bit-3.6.3-0.28.1.x86_64.rpm If you have an installed system, with the installation repository still attached, you can use 'zypper' to search and query for more detailed information: zypper se samba S | Name | Zusammenfassung | Typ --+---------------------+---------------------------------------------------+----------- i | samba | A SMB/CIFS File, Print, and Authentication Server | Paket | samba | A SMB/CIFS File, Print, and Authentication Server | Quellpaket i | samba-32bit | A SMB/CIFS File, Print, and Authentication Server | Paket i | samba-client | Samba Client Utilities | Paket i | samba-client-32bit | Samba Client Utilities | Paket | samba-doc | Samba Documentation | Paket | samba-doc | Samba Documentation | Quellpaket | samba-krb-printing | Wrapper binary for kerberized printing | Paket | samba-winbind | Winbind Daemon and Tool | Paket | samba-winbind-32bit | Winbind Daemon and Tool | Paket | sblim-cmpi-samba | Samba CIM provider | Paket | sblim-cmpi-samba | Samba CIM provider | Quellpaket i | yast2-samba-client | YaST2 - Samba Client Configuration | Paket | yast2-samba-client | YaST2 - Samba Client Configuration | Quellpaket i | yast2-samba-server | YaST2 - Samba Server Configuration | Paket | yast2-samba-server | YaST2 - Samba Server Configuration | Quellpaket # zypper info samba ... Repository: SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-11-SP3 11.3.3- Name: samba Version: 3.6.3-0.28.1 ... Regards Marcus Am Dienstag 19 Februar 2013 13:41:14 schrieb Lawton Bonnevialle: > Hi; > > One question: the new SLES11 SP3 will have Samba 4.x? > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards, Marcus Kraft -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Feb 19 08:29:35 2013 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:29:35 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs Message-ID: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> It seems that vsftpd is not getting fair treatment in the SLE distribution suite. The binary RPM is present for SLES, absent for SLED, absent in the source RPMs in the SDK (so far as I can tell). Joe D. From kukuk at suse.de Tue Feb 19 08:35:41 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:35:41 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> Hi, On Tue, Feb 19, jrd wrote: > It seems that vsftpd is not getting fair treatment in the SLE distribution > suite. The binary RPM is present for SLES, absent for SLED, absent in the > source RPMs in the SDK (so far as I can tell). I don't understand. Why should be a FTP daemon part of the Desktop? And why should the source RPM be on the SDK? If the binary RPM is on SLES, the sources are on SLES, too, where they should be. And they are there. So I don't understand your complains. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com Tue Feb 19 08:39:09 2013 From: Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com (Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE)) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:39:09 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> Message-ID: I use SLED as my main desktop on daily basis (work). I do use an ftp daemon to share code, documents with peers that still rely on commercial UNIX systems. I find it faster than NFS/SMB. Still, you can get the sources and compile. I don't see a need for the binary to be part of the distro. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE ? 787-503-2704 ----- Original Message ----- From: Thorsten Kukuk [mailto:kukuk at suse.de] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:35 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs Hi, On Tue, Feb 19, jrd wrote: > It seems that vsftpd is not getting fair treatment in the SLE distribution > suite. The binary RPM is present for SLES, absent for SLED, absent in the > source RPMs in the SDK (so far as I can tell). I don't understand. Why should be a FTP daemon part of the Desktop? And why should the source RPM be on the SDK? If the binary RPM is on SLES, the sources are on SLES, too, where they should be. And they are there. So I don't understand your complains. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue Feb 19 08:46:55 2013 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:46:55 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> Message-ID: <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> On 19/02/2013 15:35, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 19, jrd wrote: > >> It seems that vsftpd is not getting fair treatment in the SLE distribution >> suite. The binary RPM is present for SLES, absent for SLED, absent in the >> source RPMs in the SDK (so far as I can tell). > > I don't understand. > > Why should be a FTP daemon part of the Desktop? > And why should the source RPM be on the SDK? > If the binary RPM is on SLES, the sources are on SLES, too, > where they should be. And they are there. > > So I don't understand your complains. > > Thorsten > ------------- I downloaded several huge .iso's this morning, SDK and SLED extras. Then I went looking for vsftpd. I did not see the source RPM, but as I commented I might have missed it or it is on yet another huge .iso which I did not download. Let me see, what is in my SLES/D 11 SP3 collection at the moment: SLE-11-SP3-SDK DVD1 and DVD2 3GB,7.7GB SLED-11-SP3 Media1 and Media2 4.5GB,8.9GB SLES-11-SP3 DVD1 3.3GB Plus HA material. That's about 28GB plus HA. SLED is still a Linux box. It talks to other people, and other people are known to be willing to talk back. Owners of such devices are also known to use other machines from time to time and wish to put things on their SLED box. As the kitchen sink is also present then maybe small vsftpd could sneak in for those who need it. Thanks, Joe D. From andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk Tue Feb 19 08:53:34 2013 From: andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk (Andrew Foulsham) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:53:34 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1361289214.1187.37.camel@falcon.imm.ox.ac.uk> I can understand the Server / Desktop split of packages, but I too like the ability to install from the binary RPMs rather than compiling and installing from source. I've just checked, and vsftpd is available from the Build service at http://software.opensuse.org/package/vsftpd (including packages compiled against SLE 11 sp1), but admittedly older versions that are currently listed as "broken". So that's not really a viable route until their builds succeed. Best wishes, Andrew On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 15:39 +0000, Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE) wrote: > I use SLED as my main desktop on daily basis (work). I do use an ftp daemon to share code, documents with peers that still rely on commercial UNIX systems. I find it faster than NFS/SMB. > > Still, you can get the sources and compile. I don't see a need for the binary to be part of the distro. > > Kennie Cruz > HPC System Engineer > High Performance Computing CoE > > 787-503-2704 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thorsten Kukuk [mailto:kukuk at suse.de] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:35 AM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs > > > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 19, jrd wrote: > > > It seems that vsftpd is not getting fair treatment in the SLE distribution > > suite. The binary RPM is present for SLES, absent for SLED, absent in the > > source RPMs in the SDK (so far as I can tell). > > I don't understand. > > Why should be a FTP daemon part of the Desktop? > And why should the source RPM be on the SDK? > If the binary RPM is on SLES, the sources are on SLES, too, > where they should be. And they are there. > > So I don't understand your complains. > > Thorsten > -- Andrew Foulsham, Systems & Networks Manager, Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine, University of Oxford 01865 222618 andrew.foulsham at imm.ox.ac.uk From dboyes at sinenomine.net Tue Feb 19 09:25:29 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:25:29 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: References: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > I use SLED as my main desktop on daily basis (work). I do use an ftp daemon > to share code, documents with peers that still rely on commercial UNIX > systems. I find it faster than NFS/SMB. > Still, you can get the sources and compile. I don't see a need for the binary to > be part of the distro. I disagree. For those of us who support non-Unix systems (yes, we're still here), FTP is still the universal transport, and we need to be able to move files from the large hosts to desktop systems for processing. Keep in mind also that many of the non-Unix boxes often are not permitted to accept incoming connections, so the server side has to be on the desktop. I can see a case for not including the binary on the default install set, but it definitely should be available and supported. From kukuk at suse.de Tue Feb 19 09:54:25 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:54:25 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130219165425.GA2364@suse.de> On Tue, Feb 19, David Boyes wrote: > I can see a case for not including the binary on the default install set, but it definitely should be available and supported. Only to remind everybody: this list is about SLES, not SLED. And SLES has vsftpd. For SLED, you need to discuss this on the sled-beta mailing list, or you will not reach out to the right people/you will not get an answer from them. I cannot say anything about why the SLED people include/not include packages on their product. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com Tue Feb 19 09:56:17 2013 From: Kennie.Cruz at Honeywell.com (Cruz, Kennie (HPC CoE)) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:56:17 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> , <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: I don't see why do we disagree. Except for compiling source vs installing a binary. Still a valid and good point. Kennie Cruz HPC System Engineer High Performance Computing CoE 787-503-2704 ________________________________________ From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] on behalf of David Boyes [dboyes at sinenomine.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:25 PM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs > I use SLED as my main desktop on daily basis (work). I do use an ftp daemon > to share code, documents with peers that still rely on commercial UNIX > systems. I find it faster than NFS/SMB. > Still, you can get the sources and compile. I don't see a need for the binary to > be part of the distro. I disagree. For those of us who support non-Unix systems (yes, we're still here), FTP is still the universal transport, and we need to be able to move files from the large hosts to desktop systems for processing. Keep in mind also that many of the non-Unix boxes often are not permitted to accept incoming connections, so the server side has to be on the desktop. I can see a case for not including the binary on the default install set, but it definitely should be available and supported. _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From dboyes at sinenomine.net Tue Feb 19 10:02:01 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:02:01 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: References: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> , <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F177D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F2CD9@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > I don't see why do we disagree. Except for compiling source vs installing a > binary. Still a valid and good point. Some customers have policies that won't permit non-vendor binaries (so that they have one throat to choke if something did go wrong). Also, vsftp is pretty much the only thing that implements FTPS (SSL-wrapped FTP), so not having it is kinda important. From braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br Tue Feb 19 10:55:46 2013 From: braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Br=C3=A1ulio_Weimann_Gergull?=) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:55:46 -0300 Subject: [sles-beta] =?utf-8?q?Vsftpd_in_the_DVDs?= In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F2CD9@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F2CD9@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130219175553.52FD990054@lists.suse.com> I don't even see the need to compile from source. Both SLES and SLED share the same base code, so one can either grab the RPM binaries from SLES DVD and install them on SLED by hand, or even add SLES DVD as an installation source and install directly through YaST Software management. rgrds, Bráulio Weimann Gergull Open Consult - Novell Platinum Partner braulio.gergull at openconsult.com.br 55 21 9887-8889 Em 19/02/2013, David Boyes <dboyes at sinenomine.net> escreveu: > > I don't see why do we disagree. Except for compiling source vs installing a > > binary. Still a valid and good point. > > Some customers have policies that won't permit non-vendor binaries (so that they have one throat to choke if something did go wrong). Also, vsftp is pretty much the only thing that implements FTPS (SSL-wrapped FTP), so not having it is kinda important.  > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dboyes at sinenomine.net Tue Feb 19 11:08:16 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:08:16 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130219175553.52FD990054@lists.suse.com> References: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F2CD9@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130219175553.52FD990054@lists.suse.com> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC3078F33B4@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Both SLES and SLED share the same base code, so one can either grab the RPM binaries from SLES DVD and install them on SLED by hand, or even add SLES DVD as an installation source and install directly through YaST Software management. Until/unless SuSE makes a formal statement that this is supported, you?re not going to be able to use that solution in a commercial environment. AFAIK, the formal support statement is still ?don?t mix and match packages from different distributions?. SLES != SLED. Also, not all customers have both SLES and SLED. 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As written in the Beta1 Announcement: "We offer 2 DVD ISOs: DVD1 contains the binaries, the second DVD the sources." So you need SLES DVD1 for the binaries and DVD2 for the sources. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Wed Feb 20 02:31:49 2013 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (jrd) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:31:49 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Status at my end Message-ID: <51249805.1010306@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Just a small report thus far. SLES 11 SP3 once again installs very smoothly as a vm in ESXi. No problems. I am using a local disk in that box. I am pleased to see the PTY problem with telnet, which appeared in SP2, has been fixed. Yes, I read the bugzilla thread. The Gnome v2 material is also welcomed. No need for us to get into GUI design difficulties. The DVD2 iso is downloading for inspection later today. A similar machine is building now to get into the HA material. Joe D. From H.Koenig at science-computing.de Wed Feb 20 03:33:04 2013 From: H.Koenig at science-computing.de (Harald Koenig) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:33:04 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> Message-ID: <20130220103304.GB19006@atuin.science-computing.de> On Feb 19, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > Why should be a FTP daemon part of the Desktop? e.g. because one wants to use SLED for POS systems (with display etc.), and some companies like having a ftp daemon on their POS systems. > So I don't understand your complains. and I did not understand the necessity to remove important SLES stuff from SLED. what's "important" highly depends on your use cases (or your customers' ideas ;-) just our customers' 2 cents;) Harald Koenig -- "I hope to die ___ _____ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.", 0--,| /OOOOOOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen. <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\ \ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\ \ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|// Harald Koenig \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ science+computing ag // / \\ \ koenig at science-computing.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^ -- Vorstandsvorsitzender/Chairman of the board of management: Gerd-Lothar Leonhart Vorstand/Board of Management: Dr. Bernd Finkbeiner, Michael Heinrichs, Dr. Arno Steitz, Dr. Ingrid Zech Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/ Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Philippe Miltin Sitz/Registered Office: Tuebingen Registergericht/Registration Court: Stuttgart Registernummer/Commercial Register No.: HRB 382196 From kukuk at suse.de Wed Feb 20 03:37:08 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:37:08 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130220103304.GB19006@atuin.science-computing.de> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <20130220103304.GB19006@atuin.science-computing.de> Message-ID: <20130220103708.GA23506@suse.de> On Wed, Feb 20, Harald Koenig wrote: > and I did not understand the necessity to remove important SLES stuff from SLED. > what's "important" highly depends on your use cases (or your customers' ideas ;-) Sorry, a stupid answer, because we didn't removed it, it was never part of it. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From ohering at suse.de Wed Feb 20 06:15:42 2013 From: ohering at suse.de (Olaf Hering) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:15:42 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Question about "xm" and "xl" commands In-Reply-To: <3CBFA7CC2505A74B9C172B35128B8863020A8885@YLAV4460.INETPSA.com> References: <3CBFA7CC2505A74B9C172B35128B8863020A8885@YLAV4460.INETPSA.com> Message-ID: <20130220131542.GA16070@suse.de> On Wed, Feb 20, LOIC DEVULDER wrote: > In SLES11-SP2 the official command used for managing Xen is ?xm?, ?xl? is in > technical preview, what about SP3? Can we use ?xl? in production, is ?xl? the > official command? xm remains the supported command to manage guests. xl can be used if xend is disabled, but its unsupported. Olaf From markgard at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 09:39:21 2013 From: markgard at gmail.com (Mark Gardner) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:39:21 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] AutoYast Changes Message-ID: Is there a list of changes/enhancements to the AutoYast functions and features in SP3? -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adavi at nets.eu Thu Feb 21 00:51:34 2013 From: adavi at nets.eu (Alexander Davidsen) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:51:34 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] AutoYast Changes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F110@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Hi Mark, You could take a look at http://users.suse.com/~ug/autoyast_changes_SLES11SP3.html . I?m not sure how up to date this list is, but I suspect it hasn?t been updated in a while. This page also states ?here are more fixes and features in other yast modules like the bootloader that affect the autoinstallation but are not listed here.?. I?m not sure where these are listed. Regards, Alexander From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gardner Sent: 20. februar 2013 17:39 To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] AutoYast Changes Is there a list of changes/enhancements to the AutoYast functions and features in SP3? -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kukuk at suse.de Thu Feb 21 03:35:45 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:35:45 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> On Thu, Feb 21, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media is a bit old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 I got a lot of success storys, thus it is working. > 2. I can't believe we have btrfs as a filesystem option but no ext4 - again SLES 12 hopefully. I don't think that this will change. > 3. During the install I found the option for changing time using ntp server during install was greyed out I bet you did not install with network enabled? If there is no network configured at that point in time, the option will not help you. > 4. Tried a yast online update and was told there was no update repository. No update repositories or no updates available? I would guess the last one, but could be very well that the server error code is the same for both. > I checked what was put there by the registration and everything needed was there as mentioned in the release notes, but the SP2 and SP1 update and pool repositories were not enabled as the release notes said they should be. That's the SP2 part of the release-notes and not valid for SP3. > Enabled them and could pull down the first visible patch (dhcp 4.2.4P2) So you are installing SP1/SP2 patches on top of SP3, you should not do that. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From kukuk at suse.de Thu Feb 21 05:59:35 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:59:35 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: <20130221125935.GA9803@suse.de> On Thu, Feb 21, martin.z.ziegler at daimler.com wrote: > <= as far as I remeber, a Suse consultant told me once, that patches > valid for SP1 and SP2 might only be available through the SP1 update > channel as long SP1 and SP2 where supported simultaneously. So I would > guess the SP2 Update Channel is also needed in SP3 for those packages and > Mr. Lehmann did the right thing? As I wrote: This SP2 thing is not valid anymore for SP3. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From kukuk at suse.de Thu Feb 21 06:22:45 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:22:45 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: <20130221132245.GA11942@suse.de> Hi, On Thu, Feb 21, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > > I checked what was put there by the registration and everything needed was there as mentioned in the release notes, but the SP2 and SP1 update and pool repositories were not enabled as the release notes said they should be. > > That's the SP2 part of the release-notes and not valid for SP3. Where in the relase notes did you found this? I cannot find this in the release-notes for SLES11 SP3. Could please tell me the chapter, so that I can file a bug report for it? Thanks, Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From kukuk at suse.de Thu Feb 21 07:27:40 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:27:40 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Old bind-9.6 In-Reply-To: <2123540E-4B87-45CC-8FE2-FE9DBB3DAE31@toro.pro> References: <2123540E-4B87-45CC-8FE2-FE9DBB3DAE31@toro.pro> Message-ID: <20130221142740.GA17838@suse.de> On Thu, Feb 21, Stefano Toro wrote: > hi list, > > SUSE, why you don't upgrade bind packages to a newest release ? At least a 9.7 or 9.8. Why should we? bind 9.6 is available as ESV release, bind 9.7 and 9.8 are not. So we wouldn't do anything good for our enterprise customers if we would update to this versions. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From dboyes at sinenomine.net Thu Feb 21 08:41:57 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:41:57 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307907D03@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > > 4. Tried a yast online update and was told there was no update > repository. > > No update repositories or no updates available? I would guess the last one, > but could be very well that the server error code is the same for both. If so, that's a bug. A != B. From kukuk at suse.de Thu Feb 21 08:50:05 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:50:05 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307907D03@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307907D03@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130221155005.GA10621@suse.de> On Thu, Feb 21, David Boyes wrote: > > > 4. Tried a yast online update and was told there was no update > > repository. > > > > No update repositories or no updates available? I would guess the last one, > > but could be very well that the server error code is the same for both. > > If so, that's a bug. A != B. Depends on how you define A and B. In this case, A = B is correct. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From dboyes at sinenomine.net Thu Feb 21 09:52:09 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:52:09 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221155005.GA10621@suse.de> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307907D03@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130221155005.GA10621@suse.de> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307908BAD@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > > > No update repositories or no updates available? I would guess the > > > last one, but could be very well that the server error code is the same for > both. > > > > If so, that's a bug. A != B. > > Depends on how you define A and B. > In this case, A = B is correct. I would disagree. A = No update repositories configured (there are no repositories) B = No updates available (the repositories are configured but are empty) The server error code for A and B should not be the same, as they are not the same issue (and B is not necessarily an error). ==db PS: Given that you're getting a lot of testing work here (for free, no less), do you think you might consider toning down the sarcasm/attitude a bit? It's not doing you any favors, and is definitely not calculated to build a good path to Win Friends and Influence People. From markgard at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 09:57:13 2013 From: markgard at gmail.com (Mark Gardner) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:57:13 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] AutoYast Changes In-Reply-To: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F110@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F110@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: Thanks. That was about as useful I could hope for. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Alexander Davidsen wrote: > Hi Mark, **** > > ** ** > > You could take a look at > http://users.suse.com/~ug/autoyast_changes_SLES11SP3.html . I?m not sure > how up to date this list is, but I suspect it hasn?t been updated in a > while.**** > > ** ** > > This page also states ?here are more fixes and features in other yast > modules like the bootloader that affect the autoinstallation but are not > listed here.?. I?m not sure where these are listed. **** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > Alexander **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto: > sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Gardner > *Sent:* 20. februar 2013 17:39 > *To:* sles-beta at lists.suse.com > *Subject:* [sles-beta] AutoYast Changes**** > > ** ** > > Is there a list of changes/enhancements to the AutoYast functions and > features in SP3? > **** > > ** ** > > -- > > ~ Mark > Gardner ~ > If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. > *** **** > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta > > -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markgard at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 09:59:08 2013 From: markgard at gmail.com (Mark Gardner) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:59:08 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version Message-ID: I see that the puppet version is 2.6. What are chances that 2.7 could be the supported version. I'm in a PuppetLabs training and they are really pushing to get everything off 2.6 on to at least 2.7. There are also many 2.7 Features that are not available in 2.6. -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. 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A != B. >> Depends on how you define A and B. >> In this case, A = B is correct. > I would disagree. > > A = No update repositories configured (there are no repositories) > B = No updates available (the repositories are configured but are empty) > > The server error code for A and B should not be the same, as they are not the same issue (and B is not necessarily an error). > > ==db > > PS: Given that you're getting a lot of testing work here (for free, no less), do you think you might consider toning down the sarcasm/attitude a bit? It's not doing you any favors, and is definitely not calculated to build a good path to Win Friends and Influence People. > ----------- As most of us know, it would be unusual for updates of beta work to appear in the NCC channels. Even when we want to check those channels before product release they are almost never ready for that. However, it would be a good thing if a secure channel were present to do quick updates as a product progresses, versus doing an entire reinstall every week or two. The awkward part would be ensuring the channels actually work with our SMT installations (meaning updates appear under the correct account for that). On the tone of things, I rather enjoy what we have now, direct but still polite. We make progress more quickly that way. Joe D. From mmarion at qualcomm.com Thu Feb 21 11:11:36 2013 From: mmarion at qualcomm.com (Mike Marion) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:11:36 -0800 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 08:00:26AM +0000, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media is a bit > old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 A lot of us probably think that installing off media vs a network (usually via PXE) is old hat. :P > 6. I'll probably only install x86_64 architecture as that is all we > are installing these days. We still have some old i586 SLES installs around > but only because we have not had time to upgrade them. I'd be interested in > what the ratio of i586 to x86_64 installs is for new installs for > information pulled from novell/center. How long before i586 is dropped? I'd > rather see resource used on other things. I'd be interested in the numbers myself. I haven't even bothered making a 32bit image for awhile. The few rare instances where our engineers swear they need 32bit are stuck in older vm instances only, and usually when we actually pin them down, their stuff does work, using linux32 wrapping it at worst. > 7. I also noticed during my 2nd install (into virtualbox guest) that > during registration I get a message about the installation media not being > available, when it is. Clicking on retry seems to sort it. I am pretty sure > this happened on the first install too. When doing a rejump of a machine (using to reuse the same disk layout, I see a "Failure to umount /var" message once or twice, but then it eventually succeeds and continues. Saw (still see actually) this in SP2 too, but since it was basically a small annoyance, I never bothered to put in any bug reports. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Sr. Staff IT Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. From jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk Thu Feb 21 11:32:49 2013 From: jrd at netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (Joe Doupnik) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:32:49 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> References: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> Message-ID: <51266851.20509@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> On 21/02/2013 18:11, Mike Marion wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 08:00:26AM +0000, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > >> 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media is a bit >> old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 > A lot of us probably think that installing off media vs a network (usually via > PXE) is old hat. :P Yes yes, but that does not solve the problem at hand. There are likely BIOS settings which can be used to solve it. A person at my place had this trouble with a new Dell box plus a minor brand X Linux distribution. BIOS tinkering did not help, much. Retreating to an earlier distribution did the trick. Thus nuances, particularly with today's hardware, are worth exploring and reporting to the group. It's part of our job description, to detect problems before the final customer does. Joe D. From markgard at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 12:07:37 2013 From: markgard at gmail.com (Mark Gardner) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:07:37 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] DNS Configuration bug Message-ID: The help button in Yast for NameServer shows help for MX records -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Yast2DCHPBug.png Type: image/png Size: 74475 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 21 16:29:15 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:29:15 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> References: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> Message-ID: Agreed. Pxeboot is what I do at work mostly. My first install was at home, and I must admit I have been thinking about a tftpboot setup at home of late. > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Mike Marion > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 4:12 AM > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 08:00:26AM +0000, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > > > 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media > is a bit > > old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 > > A lot of us probably think that installing off media vs a network > (usually via > PXE) is old hat. :P From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 21 18:40:17 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:40:17 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221125935.GA9803@suse.de> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <20130221125935.GA9803@suse.de> Message-ID: If it has changed again for SP3, this is a bit disappointing. Some consistency within a major release as far as repositories goes would be a good thing. The change for SP2 was a bit strange in my opinion and changing it again with SP3 is a bit of a worry. Maybe some background behind these 2 changes would help me to accept it. So what should the repositories look like now for SP3? Is there just the distribution and update repository needed as it was for SP1? Cheers, Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Thorsten Kukuk > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:00 PM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: few things to note after my first > install > > On Thu, Feb 21, martin.z.ziegler at daimler.com wrote: > > > <= as far as I remeber, a Suse consultant told me once, that patches > > valid for SP1 and SP2 might only be available through the SP1 update > > channel as long SP1 and SP2 where supported simultaneously. So I > would > > guess the SP2 Update Channel is also needed in SP3 for those packages > and > > Mr. Lehmann did the right thing? > > As I wrote: This SP2 thing is not valid anymore for SP3. > > Thorsten > > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 21 23:18:43 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:18:43 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <51266851.20509@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <20130221181135.GI28208@sunapee.qualcomm.com> <51266851.20509@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: I might add opensuse 12.3 beta installed just fine on the same HP N40L from a USB stick. Cheers, Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Joe Doupnik > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 4:33 AM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > On 21/02/2013 18:11, Mike Marion wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 08:00:26AM +0000, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au > wrote: > > > >> 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media > is a bit > >> old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 > > A lot of us probably think that installing off media vs a network > (usually via > > PXE) is old hat. :P > Yes yes, but that does not solve the problem at hand. > There are likely BIOS settings which can be used to solve it. A > person at my place had this trouble with a new Dell box plus a minor > brand X Linux distribution. BIOS tinkering did not help, much. > Retreating to an earlier distribution did the trick. Thus nuances, > particularly with today's hardware, are worth exploring and reporting > to > the group. It's part of our job description, to detect > problems before the final customer does. > Joe D. > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 21 23:48:08 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:48:08 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: I've re-installed my virtual box server to check the ntp issue mentioned in point 3 below. Still greyed out. Swapping to console 2 to get at a shell to do an ifconfig -a does indeed show network is not configured, but I have a network cable (virtual) plugged in and the physical server I tried this behaved the same way. > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Thorsten Kukuk > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 8:36 PM > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > On Thu, Feb 21, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > > > 1. No ability to install from USB flash drive - optical media > is a bit old hat - hopefully this will be an option for SLES 12 > > I got a lot of success storys, thus it is working. > > > 2. I can't believe we have btrfs as a filesystem option but no > ext4 - again SLES 12 hopefully. > > I don't think that this will change. > > > 3. During the install I found the option for changing time > using ntp server during install was greyed out > > I bet you did not install with network enabled? If there is no network > configured at that point in time, the option will not help you. > > > 4. Tried a yast online update and was told there was no update > repository. > > No update repositories or no updates available? I would guess the last > one, but could be very well that the server error code is the same for > both. > > > I checked what was put there by the registration and everything > needed was there as mentioned in the release notes, but the SP2 and SP1 > update and pool repositories were not enabled as the release notes said > they should be. > > That's the SP2 part of the release-notes and not valid for SP3. > > > Enabled them and could pull down the first visible patch (dhcp > 4.2.4P2) > > So you are installing SP1/SP2 patches on top of SP3, you should not do > that. > > Thorsten > > -- > Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com Fri Feb 22 00:32:47 2013 From: Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com (Torsten Hallmann) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:32:47 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <20130221125935.GA9803@suse.de> Message-ID: <51272D2F0200005A000C7662@nat28.tlf.novell.com> Hi Greg, > If it has changed again for SP3, this is a bit disappointing. Some > consistency within a major release as far as repositories goes would be a > good thing. The change for SP2 was a bit strange in my opinion and changing > it again with SP3 is a bit of a worry. Maybe some background behind these 2 > changes would help me to accept it. As far as I agree about consistency, we tried a new model with SP2 by the intention of gaining some benefits. But it did not work out as expected and added complexity. As the feedback was not that good also from a lot of customers, we reviewed and decided to go back to the old model, where a service pack does have a pool and update channel. Regards, Torsten -- Torsten Hallmann Lead Systems Engineering Central Europe Office Center 1 Postfach 253 CH-8058 Z?rich-Flughafen +41 43 456 23 81 torsten.hallmann at suse.com SUSE From Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com Fri Feb 22 00:39:25 2013 From: Torsten.Hallmann at suse.com (Torsten Hallmann) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:39:25 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: <51272EBD0200005A000C766E@nat28.tlf.novell.com> Hi Greg, > I've re-installed my virtual box server to check the ntp issue mentioned in > point 3 below. Still greyed out. Swapping to console 2 to get at a shell to > do an ifconfig -a does indeed show network is not configured, but I have a > network cable (virtual) plugged in and the physical server I tried this > behaved the same way. Well AFAIK it was always that way: If you do not start by network install, then at this point no network is configured. And this is what Thorsten already mentioned. I typically run a test when configuring NTP. But this won't work out in such cases. I don't know why we decided to not have NTP configuration available when not starting from network. Regards, Torsten -- Torsten Hallmann Lead Systems Engineering Central Europe Office Center 1 Postfach 253 CH-8058 Z?rich-Flughafen +41 43 456 23 81 torsten.hallmann at suse.com SUSE From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Fri Feb 22 00:53:34 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:53:34 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <51272EBD0200005A000C766E@nat28.tlf.novell.com> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <51272EBD0200005A000C766E@nat28.tlf.novell.com> Message-ID: You may be right that it has always been this way, in which case I guess it is a feature, not a bug. You can switch to a console and configure the network and then it is not greyed out when you go to change the time. Cheers, Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Torsten Hallmann > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 5:39 PM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > Hi Greg, > > > I've re-installed my virtual box server to check the ntp issue > mentioned in > > point 3 below. Still greyed out. Swapping to console 2 to get at a > shell to > > do an ifconfig -a does indeed show network is not configured, but I > have a > > network cable (virtual) plugged in and the physical server I tried > this > > behaved the same way. > > Well AFAIK it was always that way: If you do not start by network > install, then at this point no network is configured. > And this is what Thorsten already mentioned. I typically run a test > when configuring NTP. But this won't work out in > such cases. > > I don't know why we decided to not have NTP configuration available > when not starting from network. > > Regards, Torsten > > -- > Torsten Hallmann > Lead Systems Engineering > Central Europe > Office Center 1 > Postfach 253 > CH-8058 Z?rich-Flughafen > +41 43 456 23 81 > torsten.hallmann at suse.com > SUSE > > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta From kukuk at suse.de Fri Feb 22 02:05:55 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:05:55 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <20130221132245.GA11942@suse.de> Message-ID: <20130222090554.GA15538@suse.de> On Fri, Feb 22, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > It is section 9.1.4, included is an image. The relevant text is at the top of the page. > > I don't think it is a bug because registration adds them, as it does for SLES 11 SP2 and they need to be enabled for SLES 11 SP2 to patch properly. The version downloaded and on the web does not have it: https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/11-SP3/ Thorsten From kukuk at suse.de Fri Feb 22 02:18:48 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:18:48 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307908BAD@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307907D03@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130221155005.GA10621@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307908BAD@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130222091848.GA15657@suse.de> On Thu, Feb 21, David Boyes wrote: > > Depends on how you define A and B. > > In this case, A = B is correct. > > I would disagree. > > A = No update repositories configured (there are no repositories) > B = No updates available (the repositories are configured but are empty) > > The server error code for A and B should not be the same, as they are not the same issue (and B is not necessarily an error). > > ==db > > PS: Given that you're getting a lot of testing work here (for free, no less), do you think you might consider toning down the sarcasm/attitude a bit? It's not doing you any favors, and is definitely not calculated to build a good path to Win Friends and Influence People. There was no sarcasm, and sorry, we are not stupid. If I tell you, that in this case A=B, then this is fact, and I don't understand how you can disagree. Especially not has you know nothing about the infrastructure at all. Independent of if you like it or not. There are reasons for this and we will not change that for beta testers, since this is not an issue for customers. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From adavi at nets.eu Fri Feb 22 02:58:29 2013 From: adavi at nets.eu (Alexander Davidsen) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:58:29 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F874@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> I would also really like to see the 2.7 version of Puppet in SLES. Regards, Alexander From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gardner Sent: 21. februar 2013 17:59 To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version I see that the puppet version is 2.6. What are chances that 2.7 could be the supported version. I'm in a PuppetLabs training and they are really pushing to get everything off 2.6 on to at least 2.7. There are also many 2.7 Features that are not available in 2.6. -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From urs.frey at post.ch Fri Feb 22 04:55:36 2013 From: urs.frey at post.ch (urs.frey at post.ch) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:55:36 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version In-Reply-To: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F874@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F874@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Message-ID: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E2244BA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> We use our own built package oem-puppet-2.7.19-x.x.norach.rpm / oem-puppet_2.7-x.x.all.deb here. OK we do need the same version on SLES, Debian & RHEL in our environment, this was a center point. There are really a lot of changes between puppet-2.6 and puppet-2.7.x, where backward compatibility is not necessarily given. Backward compatibility, that is the problem: enterprise release stands for long term backward compatibility Best regards Urs Frey Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Alexander Davidsen Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Februar 2013 10:58 An: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] Puppet Version I would also really like to see the 2.7 version of Puppet in SLES. Regards, Alexander From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gardner Sent: 21. februar 2013 17:59 To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version I see that the puppet version is 2.6. What are chances that 2.7 could be the supported version. I'm in a PuppetLabs training and they are really pushing to get everything off 2.6 on to at least 2.7. There are also many 2.7 Features that are not available in 2.6. -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From urs.frey at post.ch Fri Feb 22 05:45:49 2013 From: urs.frey at post.ch (urs.frey at post.ch) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:45:49 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] SLES11-SP3 Beta1 first experience Message-ID: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E2244EE@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Hi all I am testing SLES11-SP3 Beta1 on: - HP Proliant DL385-G5 attached to SAN EMC VMAx, QLogic HP AE311 4GB HBA - HP Proliant BL465c-G7 AMD Opteron 6172 12 Core, FCoE NC551i Emulex CNA attached to SAN E MC VMax - HP Proliant BL465c-Gen8 AMD Opteron 6220 3GHZ 16Core, FCoE 554FLB Emluex Flex LOM CNA attached to SAN E MC VMAx I do install all test servers using autoyast with the autoinst.xml I use for SLES11-SP2 except the line add-ons, where I had the patch repository for SLES11-SP2 defined. This line I removed. Installation runs OK, even suse-Register is working against our internal SMT: | 0852eb6f6f304ae8a22adc4327c82cb5 | h05cnh | 2013-02-21 17:19:22 | | SUSE_SLES 11.3 x86_64 Kernel module lpfc has been updated to version: 0:8.3.7.7.1p (great!) from version 0:8.3.5.48.3p on SLES11-SP2 Kernel module qla2xxx has been updated to version: 8.04.00.13.11.3-k, from version 8.03.07.07-k on SLES11-SP2 LVM2 and multipath-tools do work smoothly, pvcreate, vgcreate, lvcreate, lvresize, lvremove, vgremove & pvremove Same lvm.conf filter and type settings as on SLES11-SP2 On all HW installations I could observe the following message when booting after installation "exit status of parent of /usr/sbin/mcelog: 1 failed" CPU is unsupported startproc: exit status of parent of /usr/sbin/mcelog: 1 failed 'mcelog start' exits with status 7 I will dig a bit deeper into it. Maybe this is caused because the package cmpi-pywbem-power-management is not installed beside the packages Cpupower and slessp1-cpupower. Best regards Urs Frey Die Schweizerische Post Services Informationstechnologie Webergutstrasse 12 3030 Bern (Zollikofen) Telefon : ++41 (0)58 338 58 70 FAX : ++41 (0)58 667 30 07 E-Mail: urs.frey at post.ch From markgard at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 06:57:50 2013 From: markgard at gmail.com (Mark Gardner) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:57:50 -0600 Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version In-Reply-To: <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E2244BA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> References: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F874@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E2244BA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Message-ID: > We use our own built package oem-puppet-2.7.19-x.x.norach.rpm / > oem-puppet_2.7-x.x.all.deb here. > OK we do need the same version on SLES, Debian & RHEL in our environment, > this was a center point.**** > > ** ** > > There are really a lot of changes between puppet-2.6 and puppet-2.7.x, > where backward compatibility is not necessarily given.**** > > Backward compatibility, that is the problem: enterprise release stands > for long term backward compatibility**** > > ** > I 100% agree with you. That is why I thought the 2.7 version (instead of the latest 3.x version) would be an appropriate jump at a Service Pack Release instead of a mid-cycle release. The SUSE team has generally been more agressive with software versions than other companies; that's why we love them. My concern is 2.6 is no longer in development and is nearing it's End of Life where not even security patches will be available. I would be ok if the 2.7 versions were included in the SDK, just so I have an upgrade path when puppetlabs pulls the plug. Putting the 2.7 version in the SDK would also give people an opportunity to test their current puppet scripts/modules against the SUSE provided packages instead of downloading the tarball from puppet labs (puppet does not provide rpms for SLES that aren't part of the enterprise puppet version) -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff.chapman at pervasive.com Fri Feb 22 08:50:14 2013 From: jeff.chapman at pervasive.com (Jeff Chapman) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:50:14 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing Message-ID: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> I?m running the SLES v11.3 Beta (both bitnesses) in VMworkstation v9 while doing our evaluation. I installed all of KDE and Gnome, as well as 32-bit support, but otherwise we?re using the installer?s defaults. After the Linux installation, I installed the VMware tools, configured the network, setup Samba and installed our database. Several times, after testing for a while I?ve encountered the error shown in the attachment. Once you hit this, the normal Main Menu will never appear again (no matter what you select from the popup shown in the attachment.) If you try to add it again from the ?Add To Panel? applet, then you hit this error immediately. After you hit this error, the Menu Bar also seems broken. It will no longer launch many apps (kwrite or konqueror) from the Applications or Places drawers but seems to have no trouble launching certain Gnome apps (e.g., gedit) and most of the apps in the System drawer. The Alt-F2 panel to run an application is unable to launch a Konsole terminal but has no trouble launching the Gnome terminal. I?ve found no way to fix it once the break happens. I?ve done a ?revert to snapshot? several times and this error eventually surfaced again each time. Otherwise, I?m currently doing extensive IPv6 compatibility testing between our products on SLES11.3 and our products hosted on other supported platforms, including Mac OSX, Windows and RHES6.4. Fortunately, the GUI Main Menu issue doesn?t interfere very much with my testing. For example, I?m still able to launch the network config tool from the system drawer and can open a Gnome terminal instead of a konsole. Other than these GUI issues with the Main Menu, everything looks OK so far. Thanks, Jeff Jeff Chapman QA Architect Database Division Tel: 512.231.6548 Main: 800.287.4383 Fax: 512.231.6010 Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway Austin, TX 78727 http://www.pervasive.com/ NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Gnome_MainMenu_Error.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 15783 bytes Desc: Gnome_MainMenu_Error.jpg URL: From mpost at suse.com Sat Feb 23 16:06:34 2013 From: mpost at suse.com (Mark Post) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:06:34 -0700 Subject: [sles-beta] DNS Configuration bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5129052A0200006D0012731B@novprvoes0310.provo.novell.com> >>> On 2/21/2013 at 02:07 PM, Mark Gardner wrote: > The help button in Yast for NameServer shows help for MX records Did you create a Bugzilla report for this? That's what needs to happen for bugs to get fixed. Mark Post From Maximilian.Decker at cancom.de Sun Feb 24 10:25:27 2013 From: Maximilian.Decker at cancom.de (Decker Maximilian) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:25:27 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: Hi list, regarding the lack of (supported) ext4, just out of curiosity - what exactly is SuSE's reason behind obviously abandoning ext4, which by now is a well known, fast and proven evolution to ext3 ? Of course, BTRFS really is the cool new stuff, and it seems like it will become an amazing alternative. But to be honest none of our SLES customers is actually running BTRFS in their datacenters yet. Some lab or testing installations do exist, though, however bottom line is - for production systems we are effectively stuck with ext3. (sometimes even due to missing support from 3rd party SW vendors) If I understand correctly ext4 might also be missing in SLES 12. And I know there are plenty of discussions on this matter all around the internet, but hey, I hope with the current Beta maybe SuSE can shed some official light on that. Really would be great to know. Please don't get me wrong, I know there are quite a bunch of brilliant developers at SuSE that are giving their blessings to the current state of BTRFS, and we also got official SuSE support on that, but it just does not help "in the field".... people still consider it beta. thanks, - Maximilian > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Thorsten Kukuk > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 8:36 PM > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > On Thu, Feb 21, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > <---& -----> > > > 2. I can't believe we have btrfs as a filesystem option but no > ext4 - again SLES 12 hopefully. > > I don't think that this will change. > From Patrick.Swartz at firstdata.com Sun Feb 24 11:56:50 2013 From: Patrick.Swartz at firstdata.com (Swartz, Patrick H) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:56:50 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install In-Reply-To: References: <20130221103545.GC24104@suse.de> Message-ID: To add to that, we can't/won't be able to use BTRFS until it can support /boot. Our SLES11 deployment model is based on using Atomic updates, which requires the first 2 partitions to be dedicated to Atomic. So, that means that /boot is therefore incorporated into the root partition. The ability to roll back patches and upgrades is critical, but not being able to roll back a kernel makes BTRFS useless for us. Just my 2cents worth from the field... Patrick Swartz -----Original Message----- From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Decker Maximilian Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:25 AM To: 'SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program' Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install Hi list, regarding the lack of (supported) ext4, just out of curiosity - what exactly is SuSE's reason behind obviously abandoning ext4, which by now is a well known, fast and proven evolution to ext3 ? Of course, BTRFS really is the cool new stuff, and it seems like it will become an amazing alternative. But to be honest none of our SLES customers is actually running BTRFS in their datacenters yet. Some lab or testing installations do exist, though, however bottom line is - for production systems we are effectively stuck with ext3. (sometimes even due to missing support from 3rd party SW vendors) If I understand correctly ext4 might also be missing in SLES 12. And I know there are plenty of discussions on this matter all around the internet, but hey, I hope with the current Beta maybe SuSE can shed some official light on that. Really would be great to know. Please don't get me wrong, I know there are quite a bunch of brilliant developers at SuSE that are giving their blessings to the current state of BTRFS, and we also got official SuSE support on that, but it just does not help "in the field".... people still consider it beta. thanks, - Maximilian > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Thorsten Kukuk > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 8:36 PM > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] few things to note after my first install > > On Thu, Feb 21, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > <---& -----> > > > 2. I can't believe we have btrfs as a filesystem option but no > ext4 - again SLES 12 hopefully. > > I don't think that this will change. > _______________________________________________ sles-beta mailing list sles-beta at lists.suse.com http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta The information in this message may be proprietary and/or confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify First Data immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Sun Feb 24 16:32:19 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:32:19 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Puppet Version In-Reply-To: References: <3A0FFB21B68E1A4C95F63487AF73997D0931F874@AMXPRD0611MB598.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> <40637DBB36AF3941B243A286A432CA0B0E2244BA@HXMB12.pnet.ch> Message-ID: I like this idea of having an overlap of puppet versions, to allow time to update. We still run puppet 2.6 and the whole fleet needs to operate together. There may be other applications where this applies as well. It would seem to be a desirable approach for an Enterprise distribution. Cheers, Greg From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gardner Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 11:58 PM To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Puppet Version We use our own built package oem-puppet-2.7.19-x.x.norach.rpm / oem-puppet_2.7-x.x.all.deb here. OK we do need the same version on SLES, Debian & RHEL in our environment, this was a center point. There are really a lot of changes between puppet-2.6 and puppet-2.7.x, where backward compatibility is not necessarily given. Backward compatibility, that is the problem: enterprise release stands for long term backward compatibility I 100% agree with you. That is why I thought the 2.7 version (instead of the latest 3.x version) would be an appropriate jump at a Service Pack Release instead of a mid-cycle release. The SUSE team has generally been more agressive with software versions than other companies; that's why we love them. My concern is 2.6 is no longer in development and is nearing it's End of Life where not even security patches will be available. I would be ok if the 2.7 versions were included in the SDK, just so I have an upgrade path when puppetlabs pulls the plug. Putting the 2.7 version in the SDK would also give people an opportunity to test their current puppet scripts/modules against the SUSE provided packages instead of downloading the tarball from puppet labs (puppet does not provide rpms for SLES that aren't part of the enterprise puppet version) -- ~ Mark Gardner ~ If it were easy everyone would do it. Hard is what keeps out the riffraff. *** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From behlert at suse.de Mon Feb 25 04:39:10 2013 From: behlert at suse.de (Stefan Behlert) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:39:10 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [sled-beta] wifi connection problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130225113910.GE11018@suse.de> Hi Kiran, On Feb 18, 13 10:09:24 +1100, Kiran Manandhar wrote: > > I am having problem to get IP address from DHCP on Acer Aspire 5570z > laptop. I can see connection to wifi router on Network Manager. > It was working for openSuse 12.2. SLED 11 SP3 new installation on the > same partition. > Any simple solution. Unfortunately not. There could be various reasons for that, and we need the logfiles to determine what's going wrong - it could be a wrong reaction on a response or a too small timeout. Be so kind to file a service request, so our experts can have a deeper look. thanks, Stefan > > Regards, > Kiran -- Stefan Behlert, SUSE LINUX Project Manager Enterprise Desktop Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany Phone +49-911-74053-173 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg; GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) From behlert at suse.de Mon Feb 25 05:06:46 2013 From: behlert at suse.de (Stefan Behlert) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:06:46 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> On Feb 19, 13 15:46:55 +0000, jrd wrote: > On 19/02/2013 15:35, Thorsten Kukuk wrote: [...] > ------------- > I downloaded several huge .iso's this morning, SDK and SLED extras. Then I > went looking for vsftpd. I did not see the source RPM, but as I commented I > might have missed it or it is on yet another huge .iso which I did not > download. > Let me see, what is in my SLES/D 11 SP3 collection at the moment: > SLE-11-SP3-SDK DVD1 and DVD2 3GB,7.7GB > SLED-11-SP3 Media1 and Media2 4.5GB,8.9GB > SLES-11-SP3 DVD1 3.3GB > Plus HA material. That's about 28GB plus HA. > > SLED is still a Linux box. It talks to other people, and other people are > known to be willing to talk back. Owners of such devices are also known to > use other machines from time to time and wish to put things on their SLED > box. As the kitchen sink is also present then maybe small vsftpd could > sneak in for those who need it. I'm still digging through a week of backlog off mails after a week of absence, so maybe someone has already answered it in a later mail. But indepependent of that: SLED has pure-ftpd in the package list, which is a lightweight and fast FTP server. It has not vsftpd in the list, as SLES in addition to that has, but Product Management felt in the past that one ftp server on the desktop is enough. Looking at the huge amount of applications on the Desktop I would rather restrain to one ftp server than having two on the media. Personally, I am fine with either of these two, but as the decision in the past was to use pure-ftpd I would expect good arguments if we change this in a Service Pack. ciao, Stefan -- Stefan Behlert, SUSE LINUX Project Manager Enterprise Desktop Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany Phone +49-911-74053-173 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg; GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) From dboyes at sinenomine.net Mon Feb 25 08:01:10 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:01:10 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > SLED has pure-ftpd in the package list, which is a lightweight and fast FTP > server. It has not vsftpd in the list, as SLES in addition to that has, but > Product Management felt in the past that one ftp server on the desktop is > enough. Pure-ftpd doesn't implement FTPS (SSL protected FTP, *not* sftp), and almost uniformly, non-Unix platforms that rely on FTP for secure file transfer require FTPS. Vsftpd does implement FTPS. From kukuk at suse.de Mon Feb 25 08:09:33 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:09:33 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> On Mon, Feb 25, David Boyes wrote: > > > SLED has pure-ftpd in the package list, which is a lightweight and fast FTP > > server. It has not vsftpd in the list, as SLES in addition to that has, but > > Product Management felt in the past that one ftp server on the desktop is > > enough. > > Pure-ftpd doesn't implement FTPS (SSL protected FTP, *not* sftp), and almost uniformly, non-Unix platforms that rely on FTP for secure file transfer require FTPS. > Vsftpd does implement FTPS. ??? pure-ftpd itself claims that it has support for this latest with 1.0.22 (what we have). There are even other web sides describing how to configure it: http://www.rxtx-server.de/pure-ftpd-mit-tls-ssl (german only) Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From dboyes at sinenomine.net Mon Feb 25 08:50:32 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:50:32 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > > Pure-ftpd doesn't implement FTPS (SSL protected FTP, *not* sftp), and > almost uniformly, non-Unix platforms that rely on FTP for secure file > transfer require FTPS. > pure-ftpd itself claims that it has support for this latest with 1.0.22 (what > we have). Thanks for mentioning it. There are two variants of FTPS; one that implicitly wraps the whole transaction in a SSL wrapper, and one that explicitly negotiates the SSL wrapper for data connections on a per-connection basis. A quick test seems to show that Pure-FTP implements the former (using the cookbook you provided the pointer to); z/OS and Tandems (and a lot of PII auditors) seem to require the latter. In any case, we'd still prefer to use the same FTP server on the desktops that we use on the servers. Why not just provide the vsftpd RPM on the SLED DVD and let us choose? If you want to make pure-ftpd the default for SLED, OK, but then we should discuss doing the same for SLES. From kukuk at suse.de Mon Feb 25 08:53:35 2013 From: kukuk at suse.de (Thorsten Kukuk) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:53:35 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130225155335.GA9194@suse.de> On Mon, Feb 25, David Boyes wrote: > In any case, we'd still prefer to use the same FTP server on the desktops that we use on the servers. Why not just provide the vsftpd RPM on the SLED DVD and let us choose? If you want to make pure-ftpd the default for SLED, OK, but then we should discuss doing the same for SLES. pure-ftpd is the prefered FTP daemon on SLES, not vsftpd. vsftpd is only there because you couldn't start pure-ftpd from inetd. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From mge at suse.com Mon Feb 25 09:19:10 2013 From: mge at suse.com (Matthias G. Eckermann) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:19:10 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <20130225161910.GA27246@suse.com> On 2013-02-25 T 15:50 +0000 David Boyes wrote: > Thanks for mentioning it. There are two variants of > FTPS; one that implicitly wraps the whole transaction in > a SSL wrapper, and one that explicitly negotiates the > SSL wrapper for data connections on a per-connection > basis. A quick test seems to show that Pure-FTP > implements the former (using the cookbook you provided > the pointer to); z/OS and Tandems (and a lot of PII > auditors) seem to require the latter. I think, what you describing, is the difference between SSL and TLS. Both should be possible with pureftpd, if I am not mistaken. so long - MgE -- Matthias G. Eckermann Senior Product Manager SUSE? Linux Enterprise SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstra?e 5 90409 N?rnberg Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From dboyes at sinenomine.net Mon Feb 25 09:30:49 2013 From: dboyes at sinenomine.net (David Boyes) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 16:30:49 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Vsftpd in the DVDs In-Reply-To: <20130225161910.GA27246@suse.com> References: <51239A5F.10200@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130219153541.GA28242@suse.de> <51239E6F.1060408@netlab1.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20130225120646.GH11018@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793148D@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130225150933.GA30021@suse.de> <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC307931898@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <20130225161910.GA27246@suse.com> Message-ID: <2748AD71D96C2B42B7E5176021026FC30793250B@ORD2MBX03A.mex05.mlsrvr.com> > I think, what you describing, is the difference between SSL and TLS. Both > should be possible with pureftpd, if I am not mistaken. OK, I'll look for more configuration information on it. The FTP CCC command doesn't seem to do anything observable in the cookbook configuration Torsten posted; perhaps the formal docs describe more information. From jeff.chapman at pervasive.com Mon Feb 25 10:16:46 2013 From: jeff.chapman at pervasive.com (Jeff Chapman) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:16:46 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> Message-ID: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C68A0@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> The problem mentioned below has been determined to NOT be caused by the SuSE v11.3 Beta. It?s a side-effect of using an old libstdc++ library in one of our utilities. We didn?t have trouble with this library with SuSE v11.2, but it was inevitable that this old libstdc++ library was eventually going to bite us as Linux releases kept marching forward and this library stayed rooted in the past. I?m pressing our developers to update the libraries in our utilities. Thanks, Jeff From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Chapman Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:50 AM To: 'SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program' Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing I?m running the SLES v11.3 Beta (both bitnesses) in VMworkstation v9 while doing our evaluation. I installed all of KDE and Gnome, as well as 32-bit support, but otherwise we?re using the installer?s defaults. After the Linux installation, I installed the VMware tools, configured the network, setup Samba and installed our database. Several times, after testing for a while I?ve encountered the error shown in the attachment. Once you hit this, the normal Main Menu will never appear again (no matter what you select from the popup shown in the attachment.) If you try to add it again from the ?Add To Panel? applet, then you hit this error immediately. After you hit this error, the Menu Bar also seems broken. It will no longer launch many apps (kwrite or konqueror) from the Applications or Places drawers but seems to have no trouble launching certain Gnome apps (e.g., gedit) and most of the apps in the System drawer. The Alt-F2 panel to run an application is unable to launch a Konsole terminal but has no trouble launching the Gnome terminal. I?ve found no way to fix it once the break happens. I?ve done a ?revert to snapshot? several times and this error eventually surfaced again each time. Otherwise, I?m currently doing extensive IPv6 compatibility testing between our products on SLES11.3 and our products hosted on other supported platforms, including Mac OSX, Windows and RHES6.4. Fortunately, the GUI Main Menu issue doesn?t interfere very much with my testing. For example, I?m still able to launch the network config tool from the system drawer and can open a Gnome terminal instead of a konsole. Other than these GUI issues with the Main Menu, everything looks OK so far. Thanks, Jeff Jeff Chapman QA Architect Database Division Tel: 512.231.6548 Main: 800.287.4383 Fax: 512.231.6010 Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway Austin, TX 78727 http://www.pervasive.com/ NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. 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URL: From behlert at suse.de Tue Feb 26 00:30:31 2013 From: behlert at suse.de (Stefan Behlert) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:30:31 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C68A0@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C68A0@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> Message-ID: <20130226073031.GA25850@suse.de> Hi Jeff, ok, thanks for the update! Stefan On Feb 25, 13 17:16:46 +0000, Jeff Chapman wrote: > The problem mentioned below has been determined to NOT be caused by the SuSE v11.3 Beta. It?s a side-effect of using an old libstdc++ library in one of our utilities. We didn?t have trouble with this library with SuSE v11.2, but it was inevitable that this old libstdc++ library was eventually going to bite us as Linux releases kept marching forward and this library stayed rooted in the past. I?m pressing our developers to update the libraries in our utilities. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Chapman > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:50 AM > To: 'SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program' > Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing > > I?m running the SLES v11.3 Beta (both bitnesses) in VMworkstation v9 while doing our evaluation. I installed all of KDE and Gnome, as well as 32-bit support, but otherwise we?re using the installer?s defaults. After the Linux installation, I installed the VMware tools, configured the network, setup Samba and installed our database. > > Several times, after testing for a while I?ve encountered the error shown in the attachment. Once you hit this, the normal Main Menu will never appear again (no matter what you select from the popup shown in the attachment.) If you try to add it again from the ?Add To Panel? applet, then you hit this error immediately. After you hit this error, the Menu Bar also seems broken. It will no longer launch many apps (kwrite or konqueror) from the Applications or Places drawers but seems to have no trouble launching certain Gnome apps (e.g., gedit) and most of the apps in the System drawer. The Alt-F2 panel to run an application is unable to launch a Konsole terminal but has no trouble launching the Gnome terminal. I?ve found no way to fix it once the break happens. I?ve done a ?revert to snapshot? several times and this error eventually surfaced again each time. > > Otherwise, I?m currently doing extensive IPv6 compatibility testing between our products on SLES11.3 and our products hosted on other supported platforms, including Mac OSX, Windows and RHES6.4. Fortunately, the GUI Main Menu issue doesn?t interfere very much with my testing. For example, I?m still able to launch the network config tool from the system drawer and can open a Gnome terminal instead of a konsole. Other than these GUI issues with the Main Menu, everything looks OK so far. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > Jeff Chapman > QA Architect > Database Division > > Tel: 512.231.6548 > Main: 800.287.4383 > Fax: 512.231.6010 > Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com > > 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway > Austin, TX 78727 > http://www.pervasive.com/ > > > NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. > NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta -- Stefan Behlert, SUSE LINUX Project Manager Enterprise Desktop Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg, Germany Phone +49-911-74053-173 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg; GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) From mail at marcusmoeller.ch Tue Feb 26 08:39:14 2013 From: mail at marcusmoeller.ch (Marcus Moeller) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:39:14 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] [sled-beta] unsuscribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <512CD722.1080901@marcusmoeller.ch> Hey Guys and Girls. If you want to unsubscribe, please don't send an eMail with the topic unsubscribe to the lists. 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Have Fun Marcus > > -------- Oprindelig meddelelse -------- > Emne: Re: [sled-beta] unsuscribe > Fra: dverhaegen at dvesoft.be > Til: SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop Authorized Beta Program > CC: > > unsuscribe > > _______________________________________________ > sled-beta mailing list > sled-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sled-beta > _______________________________________________ > sled-beta mailing list > sled-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sled-beta > From brown.chris at sap.com Tue Feb 26 09:57:16 2013 From: brown.chris at sap.com (Chris N. Brown) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:57:16 -0700 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <20130226073031.GA25850@suse.de> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C68A0@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <20130226073031.GA25850@suse.de> Message-ID: <512CE96C.4020605@sap.com> I still don't have access to the media; I've emailed a few people about it and not gotten a reply so thought that I would send it out here. What do I need to do / whom do I contact to receive access to the DVDs? -Chris -- ________________________________________________________ Chris N. Brown Solution Advisor Expert SAP Database and Technologies SAP Americas, Inc. email: brown.chris at sap.com voice: +1-303-413-4111 twitter: @sybase_chris _______________________________________________________ From uwedr at suse.com Tue Feb 26 10:24:06 2013 From: uwedr at suse.com (Uwe Drechsel) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:24:06 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <512CE96C.4020605@sap.com> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C68A0@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <20130226073031.GA25850@suse.de> <512CE96C.4020605@sap.com> Message-ID: <20130226172406.GE17573@suse.de> On Tue, Feb 26, Chris N. Brown wrote: > I still don't have access to the media; I've emailed a few people > about it and not gotten a reply so thought that I would send it out > here. What do I need to do / whom do I contact to receive access > to the DVDs? > I am checking that. Thanks Uwe -- Uwe Drechsel SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From mkraft at suse.com Wed Feb 27 03:39:07 2013 From: mkraft at suse.com (Marcus Kraft) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:39:07 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> Message-ID: <201302271139.08043.mkraft@suse.com> Jeff, regarding IPv6 compatibility we should be on the save side. SLES 11 successfully passed twice the USGv6 testing at the UNH-IOL. The devices that have successfully completed the USGv6 testing at UNH-IOL are listed at below (you still need to search from Novell regrading SLES 11 SP1 and SP2). https://www.iol.unh.edu/services/testing/ipv6/usgv6tested.php?company=105&type=#eqplist We plan to pass the test again after SLES 11 SP3 is released (the test policies requires a release product), thus early feedback is highly appreciated. Again, SP2 succecced on the first pass, and we expect SP3 to be well prepared to repeat it. Regards Marcus PS: For those which have general interest in IPv6 and related testing pls visit https://www.iol.unh.edu/services/testing/ipv6/ . Am Freitag 22 Februar 2013 16:50:14 schrieb Jeff Chapman: > I?m running the SLES v11.3 Beta ... > Otherwise, I?m currently doing extensive IPv6 compatibility testing between our products on SLES11.3 and our products hosted on other supported platforms, including Mac OSX, Windows and RHES6.4. Fortunately, the GUI Main Menu issue doesn?t interfere very much with my testing. For example, I?m still able to launch the network config tool from the system drawer and can open a Gnome terminal instead of a konsole. Other than these GUI issues with the Main Menu, everything looks OK so far. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > Jeff Chapman > QA Architect > Database Division > > Tel: 512.231.6548 > Main: 800.287.4383 > Fax: 512.231.6010 > Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com > > 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway > Austin, TX 78727 > http://www.pervasive.com/ > > > NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards, Marcus Kraft -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz From jeff.chapman at pervasive.com Wed Feb 27 08:08:47 2013 From: jeff.chapman at pervasive.com (Jeff Chapman) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:08:47 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing In-Reply-To: <201302271139.08043.mkraft@suse.com> References: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9C29F2@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> <201302271139.08043.mkraft@suse.com> Message-ID: <139B79F9D8503B44B649F0D751D8E9B31A9CA15D@PVSWMAIL2010.pervasive.com> Hi Marcus, Thanks for the information and the links. The IPv6 work we're doing is only part of a much bigger puzzle, so we're very happy that SuSE is not one of our challenges. Note, we still support SuSE v10 so the IPv6 improvements added to SuSE v11 have been noticed and greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Marcus Kraft [mailto:mkraft at suse.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:39 AM To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com Subject: Re: [sles-beta] One issue with GUI 'Main Menu' and good news with IPv6 testing Jeff, regarding IPv6 compatibility we should be on the save side. SLES 11 successfully passed twice the USGv6 testing at the UNH-IOL. The devices that have successfully completed the USGv6 testing at UNH-IOL are listed at below (you still need to search from Novell regrading SLES 11 SP1 and SP2). https://www.iol.unh.edu/services/testing/ipv6/usgv6tested.php?company=105&type=#eqplist We plan to pass the test again after SLES 11 SP3 is released (the test policies requires a release product), thus early feedback is highly appreciated. Again, SP2 succecced on the first pass, and we expect SP3 to be well prepared to repeat it. Regards Marcus PS: For those which have general interest in IPv6 and related testing pls visit https://www.iol.unh.edu/services/testing/ipv6/ . Am Freitag 22 Februar 2013 16:50:14 schrieb Jeff Chapman: > I?m running the SLES v11.3 Beta ... > Otherwise, I?m currently doing extensive IPv6 compatibility testing between our products on SLES11.3 and our products hosted on other supported platforms, including Mac OSX, Windows and RHES6.4. Fortunately, the GUI Main Menu issue doesn?t interfere very much with my testing. For example, I?m still able to launch the network config tool from the system drawer and can open a Gnome terminal instead of a konsole. Other than these GUI issues with the Main Menu, everything looks OK so far. > > Thanks, > Jeff > > Jeff Chapman > QA Architect > Database Division > > Tel: 512.231.6548 > Main: 800.287.4383 > Fax: 512.231.6010 > Jeff.Chapman at pervasive.com > > 12365-B Riata Trace Parkway > Austin, TX 78727 > http://www.pervasive.com/ > > > NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards, Marcus Kraft -- Marcus Kraft Senior Product Manager - SUSE Linux Enterprise SUSE mkraft at suse.com (P) +49 911 74053-171 (F) +49 911 74053-483 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) Maxfeldstra?e 5, 90409 N?rnberg, Germany "We Adapt. You Succeed" www.suse.com Follow us at twitter.com/SLE4Systemz NOTICE: All information in and attached to this email may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Wed Feb 27 17:36:32 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:36:32 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: <512E2356.8070707@suse.com> References: <94B72E18-183F-4155-875B-6F3577421A64@toro.pro> <512E2356.8070707@suse.com> Message-ID: I can understand a conservative approach, but it is not consistent. If you were really this careful about not breaking/changing things between SP releases, there would be no need to apply service packs, and we could just get all the updates as patches, as it used to be for SLES 9. An SP would just be about new drivers so we could install on new hardware. This is my perception, and perhaps I don't understand it all and am happy to be put straight. SuSE decide that some things need updating and go into an SP. If a customer asks for some things to be updated, I'd hope SuSE listens, rather than quoting a policy they don't follow themselves. I am not happy with the SP process since SLES 10. The lifecycle of either GA or SP is now far too short. The need to manually intervene and apply SPs is akin to a major release upgrade as far as I am concerned. The management overhead is far too high compared to other distributions. Please fix this in SLES 12. Cheers, Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Kai Dupke > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 1:17 AM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 > > On 02/26/2013 04:18 PM, Stefano Toro wrote: > > SUSE, why you don't upgrade freeradius-server packages to a newest > release ? At least a 2.1.12 or 2.2.0 > > Because this is an SP, not a major version upgrade. A lot of customer > expect that we don't do such upgrades. > > However, we do backport of features in case there is reasonable demand. > The version number does not give you a concrete view what's in the > package if it comes to a comparison to a newer version. > > > Many bug fixes solved in newer release > > and shall be solved in the provided package doing backports as well. > > In case you're hit by a bug, please open an SR. If you know about a fix > it is allowed to point to this, makes life much easier. > > greetings > Kai Dupke > Senior Product Manager > Server Product Line > -- > Phone: +49-(0)5102-9310828 Mail: kai.dupke at suse.com > Mobile: +49-(0)173-5876766 WWW: www.suse.com > > SUSE Linux Products GmbH - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg (Germany) > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > Nurnberg) From Klaus.Gmeinwieser at oce.com Thu Feb 28 07:48:21 2013 From: Klaus.Gmeinwieser at oce.com (Klaus Gmeinwieser) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:48:21 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Issues I saw after several installs and some configuration Message-ID: <512F6E35.3010109@oce.com> Hello all, I did several installs/updates of Beta 1 on about 5 servers. The installation itself works smooth on every Fujitsu TX server I tried (TX150 / TX300 SAS systems) also for installation on ESX4/5 systems as guest. Upgrades from installed SP2 to SP3 Beta1 also works seamlessly. Very good :) But I found some minor but annoying issues: - in KDE Control Center, configuration of the Screen Saver is not possible as the Control Center crashes immediately (100% reproducible) - The "KDE Root Shell" Icon in the KDE Menu does not work as I always get a regular user shell instead of a "root shell" - the Midnight Commander does not open rpm,zip or jar files correctly (as it was with SLES10). Files with type tar.gz works. - XDMCP access to the server is not possible with Xmanager2 (will only get unuseable graphical screen). But access with Xephyr from a Linux box is okay. Not minor: Most annoying issue was impossible unattended installation of my rack systems connected to a Fujitsu KVM s4-1622. This KVM is emulating USB remote storage and YaST wants to install the system on this USB media if using "autoyast=usb" to import the control file from a USB media. The only possibility to get SLES installed is to disconnect the switch and to directly connect keyboard and mouse and to use a workaround to connect the USB stick earliest after YaST asks for it. My HP DL380G6 is not available at the moment to see, if the graphics card issue of SP2 with ES1000 onboard adapter is solved, maybe somebody tried on this hardware??? Beste Gr??e Klaus This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for use by the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a 'reply' message. Thank you for your co-operation. From uwedr at suse.com Thu Feb 28 08:16:58 2013 From: uwedr at suse.com (Uwe Drechsel) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:16:58 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] upgrading from SLES 11 SP2 to SLES 11 SP3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130228151658.GX17573@suse.de> Greg, On Wed, Feb 27, Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > Are the SP2 repositories going to be updated to allow us to try an > upgrade with zypper as mentioned in section 9.1.4 of the release > notes? > Enabling Online Service Pack migration requires the final codebase of the target Service Pack to available, as otherwise customers, who do not (want to) participate in Beta testing would be exposed to non-final code. That said, the repositories for Online Service Pack migration can not be offered and opened before First Customer Shipment of the Service Pack. Thanks Uwe -- Uwe Drechsel SUSE Linux Beta Program Manager SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From martin.wilck at ts.fujitsu.com Thu Feb 28 10:18:41 2013 From: martin.wilck at ts.fujitsu.com (Martin Wilck) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:18:41 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Issues I saw after several installs and some configuration In-Reply-To: <512F6E35.3010109@oce.com> References: <512F6E35.3010109@oce.com> Message-ID: <512F9171.2000604@ts.fujitsu.com> Hallo Herr Gmeinwieser, > Most annoying issue was impossible unattended installation of my rack > systems connected to a Fujitsu KVM s4-1622. This KVM is emulating USB > remote storage and YaST wants to install the system on this USB media if > using "autoyast=usb" to import the control file from a USB media. > > The only possibility to get SLES installed is to disconnect the switch > and to directly connect keyboard and mouse and to use a workaround to > connect the USB stick earliest after YaST asks for it. Eine Frage dazu: Passiert das nur mit dem KVM S4, oder auch zB mit einer direkten angesteckten USB Platte oder USB Stick? Gru? Martin Wilck -- Dr. Martin Wilck PRIMERGY System Software Engineer x86 Server Engineering FUJITSU Fujitsu Technology Solutions GmbH Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring 1 33106 Paderborn, Germany Phone: ++49 5251 525 2796 Fax: ++49 5251 525 2820 Email: martin.wilck at ts.fujitsu.com Internet: http://ts.fujitsu.com Company Details: http://ts.fujitsu.com/imprint From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 28 16:35:46 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:35:46 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: <512F21AF.8020008@suse.com> References: <94B72E18-183F-4155-875B-6F3577421A64@toro.pro> <512E2356.8070707@suse.com> <512F21AF.8020008@suse.com> Message-ID: Customers (me for instance) are also saying they don't want the effort of applying SPs within 6 months of them coming out. SuSE could learn a lot from the Ubuntu model which lets you have the cool features options if you really must and the stability LTS releases that don't need to be touched for 5 years (except for patches of course.) Cheers, Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Kai Dupke > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:22 PM > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 > > On 02/28/2013 09:56 AM, martin.z.ziegler at daimler.com wrote: > > So a consistent message "SPs include cool new features" or "SPs are > > optimized for stability and are very conservative" would be very > helpful. > > You're absolutely right, and the customers answer on what they want > would be 'very cool features, not breaking anything but providing the > newest stuff, in a conservative way', right? > > The generic goal is to keep stuff stable, on the other side there is > demand for the one or the other change. In such cases we have to > balance > between various areas: resources, benefits, impact on existing > installation, version update or backport, enterprise readiness. > > Some of this is not obvious at the first glance and might differ > depending on the concrete scenario. > > Depending on the concrete package it might be any single or all of the > above listed. > > On the other side we do the backports to support you and other > customers. If you handle an SP like a major release then having less > packages updated you have less packages to check dependencies on, but > still have the option to use new features if backported. > > greetings > Kai Dupke > Senior Product Manager > Server Product Line > -- > Phone: +49-(0)5102-9310828 Mail: kai.dupke at suse.com > Mobile: +49-(0)173-5876766 WWW: www.suse.com > > SUSE Linux Products GmbH - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg (Germany) > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > Nurnberg) From mge at suse.com Thu Feb 28 18:14:17 2013 From: mge at suse.com (Matthias G. Eckermann) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 02:14:17 +0100 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: References: <94B72E18-183F-4155-875B-6F3577421A64@toro.pro> <512E2356.8070707@suse.com> <512F21AF.8020008@suse.com> Message-ID: <20130301011416.GB24861@suse.com> Hello Greg and all, On 2013-02-28 T 23:35 +0000 Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > Customers (me for instance) are also saying they don't > want the effort of applying SPs within 6 months of > them coming out. SuSE could learn a lot from the > Ubuntu model which lets you have the cool features > options if you really must and the stability LTS > releases that don't need to be touched for 5 years > (except for patches of course.) I am afraid, I can not fully correlate the 6 months overlap question to your Ubuntu comparison. Anyway. SUSE offers up to 10 years support per Major Release and up to 5 years support per Service Pack, depending on customer needs. Our Service Packs deliver, and Kai detailed on that, a balance between stability, hardware enablement and innovation beyond hardware enablement. In that triangle, not breaking existing ISV certifications is a key requirement for Service Packs, specifically as SUSE Linux Enterprise is leading with respect to ISV certifications among Enterprise Linux distributions. In that context it might be interesting for you to monitor our Oracle certification for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11: we achieved the certification for SLES 11, kept it with SP1 and also kept it for SP2, all by performing the necessary Oracle testsuite. In fact, we achieved the "ok" for SLES 11 SP2 before our biggest competitor achieved the first certification for his latest product major release. In my view, this nicely shows that we kept ABI stability on the ISV level, as required by our own rules for Service Packs. Second. Hardware enablement is significantly driven by our partners -- that's those guys, where you buy servers, or who produce the internals of your servers. Don't believe that we accept all their ideas: We don't. And I don't share a big secret, when I state that nevertheless about 60% of all implemented features for our Service Packs come from this one topic: hardware enablement. The third aspect is what I called "innovation beyond hardware enablement". Here indeed we often follow your direct input and requests, balanced by two parameters: * backward compatibility * general interest of a feature or functionality A lot of work in the area of IPv6 enablement or NFS improvements have been done here for example. Now let's come back to the two topics discussed here controversially: 1. This Thread started with an upgrade request for the "freeradius-server". Now, unfortunately the request was only for the version, and did not cover detailed information about concrete issues in a given customer environment. Please mind: I am not talking about long lists of bugfixes or features listed on the freeradius website. I am really talking about your concrete issues. I just checked our internal Feature- and Bug-Databases, and I could not find any feature request, nor is there any outstanding bug (those would be solved via a patch). Why should we trigger a version upgrade? 2. In contrast I hear voices that our Service Packs would not be optimized for stability, and would not guarantee compatibility, most often in the context of the Kernel version upgrade for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP2. I am afraid, I disagree. About 18 months ago, Olaf Kirch explained as part of a Beta presentation for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP2, why the Kernel version upgrade to Kernel 3.0 improves quality, stability, and how we manage to not violate backward compatibility. The session is available online: http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64e761813f83dfc86fa1c6e0da5510c3 That said, I am well aware that a number of you have run into issues -- most often those who work with non-open-source kernel modules. We are working with the respective partners (some also here in this community) to improve our common processes and thus the time to market. Summarizing, indeed, defining a Service Pack is always a balance -- between rules, goals and forces, which live in 1300+ impersonal feature requests and even more personal interaction. Such as this discussion. -- Thanks! so long - MgE > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Kai Dupke > > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:22 PM > > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 > > > > On 02/28/2013 09:56 AM, martin.z.ziegler at daimler.com wrote: > > > So a consistent message "SPs include cool new features" or "SPs are > > > optimized for stability and are very conservative" would be very > > helpful. > > > > You're absolutely right, and the customers answer on what they want > > would be 'very cool features, not breaking anything but providing the > > newest stuff, in a conservative way', right? > > > > The generic goal is to keep stuff stable, on the other side there is > > demand for the one or the other change. In such cases we have to > > balance > > between various areas: resources, benefits, impact on existing > > installation, version update or backport, enterprise readiness. > > > > Some of this is not obvious at the first glance and might differ > > depending on the concrete scenario. > > > > Depending on the concrete package it might be any single or all of the > > above listed. > > > > On the other side we do the backports to support you and other > > customers. If you handle an SP like a major release then having less > > packages updated you have less packages to check dependencies on, but > > still have the option to use new features if backported. > > > > greetings > > Kai Dupke > > Senior Product Manager > > Server Product Line > > -- > > Phone: +49-(0)5102-9310828 Mail: kai.dupke at suse.com > > Mobile: +49-(0)173-5876766 WWW: www.suse.com > > > > SUSE Linux Products GmbH - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg (Germany) > > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > > Nurnberg) -- Matthias G. Eckermann Senior Product Manager SUSE? Linux Enterprise SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstra?e 5 90409 N?rnberg Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG N?rnberg) From Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au Thu Feb 28 19:02:57 2013 From: Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au (Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 02:02:57 +0000 Subject: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: <20130301011416.GB24861@suse.com> References: <94B72E18-183F-4155-875B-6F3577421A64@toro.pro> <512E2356.8070707@suse.com> <512F21AF.8020008@suse.com> <20130301011416.GB24861@suse.com> Message-ID: Hi Matthias, Thanks for your explanation. To clarify my SP 6 month statement: If we installed a server with SLES 11 SP1, on the day it came out, we would get patches for it until 6 months after SP2 came out. At that point we are forced to upgrade to SP2 to continue getting patches. We don't want to pay extra for extended support. It's nice you have it, but is not an option for us. The installation of an SP is a maintenance overhead that requires significant manual intervention and system administrator time. For a lot of our servers we want to be able to install it and leave it untouched except for monitoring for its life. We want patches to keep going onto it for its life. We want that life to be long, particularly since in the virtual world we don't have hardware refresh issues as far as the guest operating systems are concerned. Maybe think of a Ubuntu LTS release as the SLES 11 GA release, but they keep supplying patches for it until the next LTS release (in your case SLES 12 GA.) They have 6 monthly releases in between LTS releases which might be similar to an SP update. The one other thing Ubuntu does is provide a driver update to the LTS release so you can actually install it on new hardware as it comes along. I am not suggesting you adopt Ubuntu's model, just saying it is an example of a model that fits my requirements better than the current model you offer. I have outlined the reasons above. Because of the current model I am recommending people install Ubuntu instead of SLES in my organisation, unless there is a reason for SLES specifically. I actually personally prefer SLES but it is too labour intensive for us at present. Regards, Greg Lehmann > -----Original Message----- > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Matthias G. Eckermann > Sent: Friday, 1 March 2013 11:14 AM > To: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server Authorized Beta Program > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 > > Hello Greg and all, > > On 2013-02-28 T 23:35 +0000 Greg.Lehmann at csiro.au wrote: > > > Customers (me for instance) are also saying they don't > > want the effort of applying SPs within 6 months of > > them coming out. SuSE could learn a lot from the > > Ubuntu model which lets you have the cool features > > options if you really must and the stability LTS > > releases that don't need to be touched for 5 years > > (except for patches of course.) > > I am afraid, I can not fully correlate the 6 months > overlap question to your Ubuntu comparison. Anyway. > > SUSE offers up to 10 years support per Major Release and > up to 5 years support per Service Pack, depending on > customer needs. > > Our Service Packs deliver, and Kai detailed on that, a > balance between stability, hardware enablement and > innovation beyond hardware enablement. > > In that triangle, not breaking existing ISV certifications > is a key requirement for Service Packs, specifically as > SUSE Linux Enterprise is leading with respect to ISV > certifications among Enterprise Linux distributions. In > that context it might be interesting for you to monitor > our Oracle certification for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11: we > achieved the certification for SLES 11, kept it with SP1 > and also kept it for SP2, all by performing the necessary > Oracle testsuite. In fact, we achieved the "ok" for SLES > 11 SP2 before our biggest competitor achieved the first > certification for his latest product major release. In my > view, this nicely shows that we kept ABI stability on the > ISV level, as required by our own rules for Service Packs. > > Second. Hardware enablement is significantly driven by our > partners -- that's those guys, where you buy servers, or > who produce the internals of your servers. Don't believe > that we accept all their ideas: We don't. And I don't > share a big secret, when I state that nevertheless about > 60% of all implemented features for our Service Packs come > from this one topic: hardware enablement. > > The third aspect is what I called "innovation beyond > hardware enablement". Here indeed we often follow your > direct input and requests, balanced by two parameters: > * backward compatibility > * general interest of a feature or functionality > A lot of work in the area of IPv6 enablement or > NFS improvements have been done here for example. > > Now let's come back to the two topics discussed here > controversially: > > 1. This Thread started with an upgrade request for > the "freeradius-server". Now, unfortunately the > request was only for the version, and did not > cover detailed information about concrete issues > in a given customer environment. > Please mind: I am not talking about long lists of > bugfixes or features listed on the freeradius > website. I am really talking about your concrete > issues. > > I just checked our internal Feature- and Bug-Databases, > and I could not find any feature request, nor is there > any outstanding bug (those would be solved via a patch). > > Why should we trigger a version upgrade? > > 2. In contrast I hear voices that our Service Packs would > not be optimized for stability, and would not guarantee > compatibility, most often in the context of the > Kernel version upgrade for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP2. > > I am afraid, I disagree. > > About 18 months ago, Olaf Kirch explained as part of > a Beta presentation for SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP2, > why the Kernel version upgrade to Kernel 3.0 improves > quality, stability, and how we manage to not violate > backward compatibility. The session is available online: > > http://www.novell.com/huddle/event/index.php?event_id=64e761813f8 > 3dfc86fa1c6e0da5510c3 > > That said, I am well aware that a number of you have > run into issues -- most often those who work with > non-open-source kernel modules. We are working with > the respective partners (some also here in this > community) to improve our common processes and thus > the time to market. > > Summarizing, indeed, defining a Service Pack is always a > balance -- between rules, goals and forces, which live in > 1300+ impersonal feature requests and even more personal > interaction. Such as this discussion. -- Thanks! > > so long - > MgE > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta- > > > bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of Kai Dupke > > > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:22 PM > > > To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com > > > Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Antwort: Re: Old freeradius-server 2.1.1 > > > > > > On 02/28/2013 09:56 AM, martin.z.ziegler at daimler.com wrote: > > > > So a consistent message "SPs include cool new features" or "SPs > are > > > > optimized for stability and are very conservative" would be very > > > helpful. > > > > > > You're absolutely right, and the customers answer on what they want > > > would be 'very cool features, not breaking anything but providing > the > > > newest stuff, in a conservative way', right? > > > > > > The generic goal is to keep stuff stable, on the other side there > is > > > demand for the one or the other change. In such cases we have to > > > balance > > > between various areas: resources, benefits, impact on existing > > > installation, version update or backport, enterprise readiness. > > > > > > Some of this is not obvious at the first glance and might differ > > > depending on the concrete scenario. > > > > > > Depending on the concrete package it might be any single or all of > the > > > above listed. > > > > > > On the other side we do the backports to support you and other > > > customers. If you handle an SP like a major release then having > less > > > packages updated you have less packages to check dependencies on, > but > > > still have the option to use new features if backported. > > > > > > greetings > > > Kai Dupke > > > Senior Product Manager > > > Server Product Line > > > -- > > > Phone: +49-(0)5102-9310828 Mail: kai.dupke at suse.com > > > Mobile: +49-(0)173-5876766 WWW: www.suse.com > > > > > > SUSE Linux Products GmbH - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg > (Germany) > > > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > > > Nurnberg) > > -- > Matthias G. Eckermann Senior Product Manager SUSE? Linux > Enterprise > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstra?e 5 90409 N?rnberg > Germany > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend?rffer, HRB 16746 (AG > N?rnberg) > _______________________________________________ > sles-beta mailing list > sles-beta at lists.suse.com > http://lists.suse.com/mailman/listinfo/sles-beta