[sles-beta] Suggestion to speed up installs/Upgrades/patching for "future" SLE

[Darren Thompson]

Frederic

I'm seeing the "multiple dracut initrd regenerations" during SLES12 beta9
so it's still very much evident in SLES12.

According to Matthias (you replied to his email), the issue was already
considered and the spedup was rejected in favour of maintaing package
stability (in the event of a crash during upgrades).

Using RPM "transaction" does seem like a good option, perhaps some more
discussion between the 'coders' may be warranted.

Darren



On 23 June 2014 17:42, Frederic Crozat <fcrozat at suse.com> wrote:

> Le lundi 23 juin 2014 à 02:36 +0200, Matthias G. Eckermann a écrit :
> > Hello Darren,
> >
> > don't you think that we already did consider this?
> >
> > The problem with this approach is that it leaves the
> > system in an undefinied / inconsistent state for a few
> > minutes, and if it crashes then, you have a really bad
> > experience.
> >
> > Thus we have decided to follow the save way which indeed
> > needs a bit more time, but we hope that people appreciate
> > consistency and stability over 2-3 minutes of time.
>
> Well, it happens our development team implemented a "sane" way to handle
> dracut updates during SLE12 development (Darren, I don't know when you
> noticed those dracut "issues), preventing too many dracut initrd
> regeneration but ensuring it is called once all packages are updated
> (using an RPM feature called "transactions", which was not available
> during SLE12). Since it is handled at RPM level, it is safer than trying
> to do it at end of installation (ie à la SuSEConfig like SLE11, which
> was not run if you were using only RPM and not zypper, for instance).
>
> However, maybe some packages were not migrated to the new "transaction"
> way and are still regenerating initrd more often than needed.
>
> --
> Frederic Crozat
> Project Manager Enterprise Desktop
> SUSE
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