[sles-beta] cciss driver for HP hardware

urs.frey at post.ch urs.frey at post.ch
Tue Jun 24 02:23:22 MDT 2014


Hi all
Just some data about DL380-G5:
The Proliant DL380-G5 was released June 19th 2008. End-of-Life has been reached, it has been retired by HP
HP Proliant DL380-G5 has been the most successful model in sales numbers.

So running hardware which cannot be repaired anymore is a risk
http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/kb/docDisplay?javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.prp_ba847bafb2a2d782fcbb0710b053ce01=wsrp-navigationalState%3DdocId%253Demr_na-c00712808-51%257CdocLocale%253D%257CcalledBy%253D&javax.portlet.tpst=ba847bafb2a2d782fcbb0710b053ce01&ac.admitted=1403597119390.876444892.199480143 

I agree there are costs coming up in terms of investments.
Maybe there is a chance to do it the way I did here:
When production changed from G7 to Gen8 I "recycled" two DL380-G7 for me to use as test-servers and then I retired my old DL380-G5 servers

Anyway there is no way to upgrade from cciss to hpsa driver in an automated way.
Of course one can do so manually, by editing device-map, bootloader settings, initd and fstab.
One just needs to know, on which partition which filesystem was mounted.
http://www.novell.com/support/kb/doc.php?id=7012465 
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02677069.pdf 

Best regards

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Tom Parker
Gesendet: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:18 AM
An: Matthias G. Eckermann; sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] cciss driver for HP hardware

Thanks Matthias. 

The hpsa_allow_any=1 does not work on the G5 HP hardware. 

What I do find interesting is that openSuSE 13.1 which is running
3.11.10 has no problem on these systems and has both the cciss driver
and the hpsa driver available.  It uses the cciss driver on the old
hardware and the hpsa driver on the new.  My frustration is that I don't
see a reason for a mainline kernel driver to be removed.  If there are
conflicts with the pciids between these two drivers then it would seem
that a relatively simple patch should be able to remove any pciids that
should go to the hpsa kernel module from the cciss module

I guess for my older servers I will have to stick to SLES 11 SP3.  Sadly
this means that for my Dev and QA labs I will have to make a significant
investment to upgrade our physical infrastructure to run SLES 12.

Does anyone else on this list still use HP G5 servers?

Tom

On 23/06/14 11:01 PM, Matthias G. Eckermann wrote:
> Hello Tom and all,
>
> as already said in my last E-Mail about this topic, we
> are taking input on drivers also from the vendor of the
> respective hardware.
>
> Regressions on this we try to mitigate, and compared to
> other recent distributions, SLES 12 has special code in
> the hpsa driver to support more of the older
> controllers, i.e. more than the upstream driver.
>
> I just realize that this advice is not reflected in the
> Release Notes yet (please file an SR!), thus: please
> try "hpsa_allow_any=1" as a kernel commandline option.
>
> This will put the hpsa driver in a mode not supported by
> HP (and subsequently not us, see:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/scsi/hpsa.txt),
> but at least you are able use the device for testing.
>
> I apologize for any inconvenience, but as also said,
> this is out of SUSE's control.
>
> so long -
> 	MgE
>
>
> On 2014-06-23 T 16:51 -0400 Tom Parker wrote:
>> Thanks Matthias.
>>
>> Why has the cciss driver been removed from the distro?  I assume that it
>> is still in the linux kernel.  Is there a reason to deliberately stop
>> compiling it?
>>
>> I am sure that I am not the only person who has tons of older servers
>> that still work 100% but will be unable to run SLES 12 because of this
>> change.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 21/06/14 09:59 AM, Tom Parker wrote:
>>> Has the old cciss driver been removed from the kernel?  On my SP3
>>> systems I see from lspci that both the hspa and cciss drivers are
>>> available for this PCIID
>>>
>>> 0b:08.0 RAID bus controller: Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array E200i
>>> (SAS Controller)
>>>         Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array E200i
>>>         Kernel driver in use: cciss
>>>         Kernel modules: hpsa, cciss
>>>
>>> I will have to test beta 9 on an old server on Monday
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On 21/06/14 06:22 AM, Matthias G. Eckermann wrote:
>>>> Hello Tom and all,
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-06-20 T 23:44 -0400 Tom Parker wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> I see that the cciss driver for older HP hardware is
>>>>> no longer supported.  Does this mean it has been
>>>>> removed from the kernel and is no longer available or
>>>>> just that SLES will not support systems using this
>>>>> driver?
>>>> please see the Release Notes, chapter 4.2.2:
>>>> https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/12/#Driver_Updates.Storage
>>>>  
>>>> Compared to other recent distributions, SLES 12 has
>>>> special code in the hpsa driver to support more of the
>>>> older controllers, i.e. more than the upstream driver.
>>>>
>>>>> We still have many HP BL460 G5 servers running in QA
>>>>> and Development that have many more years of useful
>>>>> life in them and all of them use the Hewlett-Packard
>>>>> Company Smart Array E200i Controller which is listed
>>>>> as not supported
>>>> However, unfortunately, the E200i is not among those,
>>>> where we can implement this.
>>>>
>>>> I am afraid, this is out of SUSE's control and should be
>>>> brought up with the hardware vendor, who also maintains
>>>> the upstream driver(s).
>>>>
>>>> so long -
>>>> 	MgE
>>>>
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