[sles-beta] SLES11-SP4 beta2 x86_64 - VMware Tools Again ...

[Waite, Dick]

Mike the part I don’t see working in this two horse race is:

VWware Workstation bring out a 11.2.0 which has Tools at say 9-9-3-123456. They control both halves of the interface so they can test this works.

I update to 11.2.0 and try and run with "open-vm-tools", now I know SUSE and VMware are good friends but will then let you know in advance whet has changed in their update ?

The other part is, on some systems I run Workstation 10.n for our own reasons, this runs grand with VMware tools built with 10.n but which version of "open-vm-tools" would I use ? or do you hope the latest "open-vm-tools" will fit all the versions of Workstation that VMware support ?

I don’t see with what application you (SUSE) would expect "open-vm-tools" to run with, maybe knowing that would remove some of the Shades of Grey.

__R

-----Original Message-----
From: Waite, Dick
Sent: Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 07:51
To: 'Mike Latimer'; sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Subject: RE: [sles-beta] SLES11-SP4 beta2 x86_64 - VMware Tools Again ...

Grand Morning Mike,

The issues I noted quickly was the Mouse running a little wild, not being able to click on what you wanted. When I used VMware "Shutdown" it said it had an issue with the script below it.

I'm using VMware Workstation 11.1.0 which has tools VMware Tools 9-9-2-2496486

I have now deleted open-vm-tools and libvm and marked them "not to be installed". I did this on a couple of SP3-SP4 updates I ran at my home_office and it's looking good. At least I can work on testing SAG Apps and not chasing my mouse around the screen.

More than will to run some checks for you on a best available time base.

__R

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Latimer [mailto:mlatimer at suse.com]
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 15:20
To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Cc: Waite, Dick
Subject: Re: [sles-beta] SLES11-SP4 beta2 x86_64 - VMware Tools Again ...

Hi,

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:36:23 AM Waite, Dick wrote:
> What has been APITA is the grand Ping_Pong being played between VMware
> and SUSE with “Tools”. With SP3 one used VMware tools for Workstation
> and one was happy. You run an update and the good people of SUSE say,
> we can do better and pop into the mix their “open-vm-tools and
> libvmtools”, You have not asked for this, it’s just done, not check to
> see if this is a “VMware Workstation”.

Thanks for reporting this, and sorry for the troubles. Last time I tested VMware-workstation, installing VMware tools was done through a tarball, rather than an RPM, so I was not expecting the update process to find anything to update.

> So you finish the update and all looks Okay, so you then run a VMware
> tools update ‘cos you know you have a new kernel. I’m running VMware
> Workstation
> 11.1.0 which has tools 9.9.2_2496486 and it’s not given me any issues,
> so far. Re-load after the tools update and Wow… what’s has my mouse
> been smoking !!!!! It’s all over the shop, umm better close down, Wow
> why is the stop script saying it’s not a happy badger….

> One does look around and after the fun and games with SLE12 it’s quite
> easy to see the “open-vm-tools” are back again giving my mouse
> something that sends it in circles…

I thought we had everything worked out in the SLE12 environment - other than the gtkmm-2.4/3.0 issue. If there are any outstanding issues, I'd like to understand them and get a bug filed.

> If you kill the open-vm-tools and set it to never again darken your
> door, run the VMware tools again and reload then you have a mouse the
> is back under control and scripts that start and stop when asked.

> I do not understand what the open-vm-tools are there for. If you are
> running VMware software then you have their tools, which get updated quite often.
> If your not running VMware why would you want open-vm-tools ?

In theory, including the tools with the distribution should have helped users avoid the step of installing additional software after the installation has completed. If conflicts are continuing to be seen, we need to get them resolved or rethink this approach.

I'll do some testing today, but any further details you can provide (probably
off-list) would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Mike

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