[sles-beta] Getting KDE running

[Marcus Moeller]

Hi Dick Waite.

>          Migration / Upgrade  from SLE 11-3 to 12 - If the SLE 11-3 machine is happily running a KDE enviroment from what I have seen there is no Upgrade posable from 11-3 to 12
>
>          Just like editor's if you have used a Desktop for 10 years and it works for you, and the desktop is still actively supported you like to stay with it. Ask the Window XP people or even Window 7. For a KDE person to go to GNOME it's a new life style and one has to ask why. GNOME is owned by Novell is that a good reason? Will KDE be dropped by openSUSE too?

Hey, it's time to switch away from XP: now ;)

Btw. GNOME is not owned by Novell. GNOME is a community project which is 
based on a foundation: http://www.gnome.org/foundation/

KDE will still be part of openSUSE and is even the default desktop for now.

 From what I got now, KDE is only dropped from the SLES part, not SLED 
(I have not verified it yet, because even after 10 tries I did not 
manage to get DVD2 and DVD3 with the correct MD5sums).

 From the initial presentation, we learned, that it should be possible 
to add SLED as Add-On Product to SLES, so you can even extend your 
Servers with a KDE Desktop.

Greets
Marcus

>          One can see a number of KDE libraries on disk after an install but after installing and setting the bits in /etc/sysconfig etc one, or this one, does not get a happy happy KDE desktop and it the sprit of Linux, it's a KDE desktop I want. When a Distro starts dictating what editor or Virtualization or development / scripting language I *have* to use, then it's time to find a new Distro. If KDE can be dropped so maybe next it's ksh or tcsh as they are not quite mainstream. If there was little support or activity in the KDE area, maybe one can understand the business reasons, but I think KDE is quite active, has been since 1996 I think (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE). I 100% agree SUSE can say it's not supported, that's business but I do think they should have a working KDE enviroment available on their Distro.
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>          If I'm way out on left field, then I'll drop the subject and get my kubuntu fired up again, but I do think there are other KDE people out there.
>
>          Should a "server" have all Desktop's maybe not, but SUSE has a "Common Code Base" so if SLED has KDE then why not SLES too. Question does SLED support KDE?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthias G. Eckermann [mailto:mge at suse.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:24 PM
> To: Waite, Dick; 'Günther J. Niederwimmer'; 'sles-beta at lists.suse.com'; jweber at suse.com
> Subject: Re: [sles-beta] Getting KDE running
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> Hello Dick and all,
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> On 2014-02-27 T 10:16 +0000 Waite, Dick wrote:
>
>> Can one use the .iso's from opensuse 13-1 to try and get a workable
>> KDE Desktop? From what I see with the SLE 12 Beta we are missing some
>> bits and bobs.
>
> I am afraid, the differences between openSUSE 13.1 and SLES 12 are too heavy. Packages from the OBS might work.
>
> Before we proceed in that direction, though, let me include Jan Weber here, our Product Manager for SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (product) and desktop related questions in SUSE Linux Enterprise.
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> I think, what he might primarily be interested in: what is the _specific_ Use Case for KDE on a Server product?
>
> Please remember, we are only talking the KDE desktop here, we certainly will continue to support the Qt stack on SUSE Linux Enterprise 12.
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> I already got one point / Use Case:
> 1. Partners will have to change their documentation
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> What else?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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> so long -
>          MgE
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