[sles-beta] FTP

[Beddingfield, Allen]

I second this.  In the real world, there are lots of customized scripts that people have written and maintained to do particular production tasks.  In reality, what is going to happen is that people are going to pull in the packages that they are accustomed to from the openSUSE Build Service, instead of setting out to rewrite all of their scripts. 
In many cases, the one size fits all tool is great, but if the commandline options differ, and the functionality differs, this is going to cause headaches.
Just my $0.02 worth 
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Allen Beddingfield
Systems Engineer
The University of Alabama

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From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] on behalf of David Boyes [dboyes at sinenomine.net]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 1:13 PM
To: Matthias G. Eckermann; Joe Doupnik; sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Subject: Re: [sles-beta] FTP

> As discussed, we have a goal of "One Tool for One Use Case", and in terms of
> FTP the decision has been made, to go with:
> [snip]
> lftp was chosen, as it supports multiple protocols (http, webdav, ... on topf o
> ftp), backgrounding of running downloads, ... and has a reasonable CLI.

Except that CLI is different enough to break most of the existing FTP automation scripts that people have already written and depend on for real production work.
Sorry, that's not an improvement, that's a cost, and a pointless, needless variation vs any other Linux distribution. That CLI change requires special case code to cope with. And extra documentation. And extra testing. And every time we have to document "do it this way on every Linux EXCEPT SLES12" you look at best idiosyncratic, and at worst, incompatible.

Something that would be very helpful from the SUSE folks if you're going to insist on the "one ring to rule them all" approach:  a comprehensive list of what functions/use cases you have evaluated that you think we need, and what packages you have chosen to supply to meet those needs.  Discovering these "choices" one by one is becoming really, really frustrating, and you may be able to avoid a lot of complaints by discussing this curation process up front and getting what we ACTUALLY want vs what you think we want.

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