[sles-beta] KDE Desktop not available?

[Waite, Dick]

Good Morning,

	I would agree, SUSE will keep to their decision on Desktops, so it allows others to fill in the missing KDE enviroment. OpenSource gives people their choice, it's not dictatorial like Microsoft or Apple it's what works best for you and your company. We have been talking to one big provider and they see it as a good offering to their services. 

	To be honest at the moment it's not the choice of Display Manager that is holding us back testing SLE 12 SP-0 it's not being able to Upgrade our QE enviroment from SLE 11 SP-3, even very simple machine configurations fail either in "network", "grub" or "Display" on the re-ipl of the new enviroment. Looking forward to beta6 fixing the Upgrade issues otherwise we might not have enough time left before SP-0 is cast in stone. Very happy SLE 11-SP3 has a good shelf life I have a feeling it will be well used, the "Windows XP" of the Linux world ;o)

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-----Original Message-----
From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of KRONSEDER, Thomas, Dr.
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:37 AM
To: 'sles-beta at lists.suse.com'
Subject: Re: [sles-beta] KDE Desktop not available?

Hi,

I had an extended private discussion with SUSE regarding removal of kde in the SLED context.
The result was that SUSE will stick to its decision.

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Dr.-Ing. Thomas Kronseder
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] Im Auftrag von Waite, Dick
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. April 2014 07:59
An: 'sles-beta at lists.suse.com'
Betreff: Re: [sles-beta] KDE Desktop not available?

Grand New Day,

        The demises of KDE on SUSE is bad news. KDE is supported on the new RHEL v7 going through beta at the moment.

         You will also find that as of SLE 12 SP-0 Beta5 you can not "Upgrade" from a simple SLE 11 SP3 which makes testing for us very hard as the items we wish to test are on SLE 11 SP-3 machines that I wish to Upgrade. Could be interesting if the Upgrade works at RC1 and that's the time we can really check-out SLE12 SP-0

        There are some looking at 3rd-Party support for KDE, I'll post any information I get. In the D-A-CH region up until SLE 12 KDE and SuSE (not SUSE) were like a hand and glove, they fitted very well and were used together.

__R

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-----Original Message-----
From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [mailto:sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] On Behalf Of James Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:53 PM
To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Subject: Re: [sles-beta] KDE Desktop not available?

This is really bad news.
All of the servers I support are using KDe for their GUI, and I run it exclusively as my primary desktop.
I find Gnome to be nearly unusable as a productivity interface.
Has there been any thought about what effect that will have on upgrading servers with only KDE installed?
-jt


>>> "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu> 4/23/2014 4:27 PM >>>
Hi James,
I didn't realize you were on here!
This one got hashed out pretty early on...  apparently the decision has been made the Gnome will be the one/only desktop for SLES/SLED in version 12.
Allen B.
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Allen Beddingfield
Systems Engineer
The University of Alabama

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From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com [sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] on behalf of James Taylor [James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:21 PM
To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com
Subject: [sles-beta] KDE Desktop not available?

I'm just getting started testing, and when I went into the software configuration, it appears only to have Gnome available.
I use KDE exclusively in my linux workstation environment, which is my primary desktop.
All of my current server installations have KDE. I find Gnome pretty unusable, so I'm hoping KDE will be available by the time SLES12 is released.
-jt



James Taylor
678-697-9420
james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com



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