[sles-beta] php disappeared in beta6?

[rbrown]

'hostage taking'? quite an emotive way of putting it Joe :)
Without wanting to preempt too much Matthias' call, partially because 
I'm lacking all the details, I would like to share a little about what I 
know about Modules and why I think they're exciting.
In my past life as a customer, I was involved in lots of conversations 
about how SLES was not the best platform for certain workloads, such as 
PHP Web Hosting, as the release cycle and strict adherence to keeping 
versions the same over the lifespan of a SLE release meant it was 
hard/impossible to run more recent versions of PHP on top of SLES.
It is my understanding that 'Modules' is an answer to that issue, a way 
for SUSE to deliver specific software stacks at a different rate of 
change than the 'core' SLES platform

So I wouldn't characterize the relocation of PHP as 'hostage taking', 
but more 'liberation', able to follow a slightly different path which I 
expect Matthias' presentation will explain far better than I can.

On 2014-05-15 09:36, Joe Doupnik wrote:
> Without having heard Matthias' presentation on the topic, the
> appearance at present is this is hostage taking. As we all know, PHP
> is a central component of building production servers. Chasing down
> -devel RPMs is awkward enough, now core material is being placed
> behind locked doors. Might someone offer a brief explanation of why
> this approach is being taken?
>     Thanks,
>     Joe D.
> 
> On 14/05/2014 22:14, Matthias G. Eckermann wrote:
>> On 2014-05-14 T 15:55 +0000 Beddingfield, Allen wrote:
>> 
>>> I can confirm this as an issue, too.  We
>>> definitely require that PHP be included, since we
>>> are hosting our web infrastructure on SLES.
>> PHP is not on the "ISO" anymore, but in a "module",
>> which is only delivered online.
>> 
>> To get PHP, please register your system during
>> installation and chose the "Web & Scripting" module.
>> 
>> More on the "Modules" concept I will explain in one
>> of the next beta calls.
>> 
>> so long -
>> 	MgE
>> 
>>> From: sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com 
>>> [sles-beta-bounces at lists.suse.com] on behalf of Tony Ernst 
>>> [tee at sgi.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:35 AM
>>> To: sles-beta at lists.suse.com
>>> Subject: [sles-beta] php disappeared in beta6?
>>> 
>>> Sles12 beta5 had php (php5) rpms. They seem to have disappeared in 
>>> beta6.
>>> Was that intentional? Oddly enough, the php5-devel and the pcp .src 
>>> rpm
>>> are still in the beta6 SDK.
> 
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