[sle-beta] packages of minimal vs. base

[Vincent Moutoussamy]

Hi,
> On 30 Jan 2018, at 09:46, Vincent Moutoussamy <VMoutoussamy at suse.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>> On 28 Jan 2018, at 00:00, Bernd <ecki at zusammenkunft.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> what would be a command to compare the packages installed with minimal (no package DVD) vs. base-module and text-mode pattern in SLES15?
> 
> This is not exactly right, minimal here in your sentence mean the Installer.
> However "The scope of an installation, only containing the base system, is
> comparable to the installation pattern minimal system of previous SUSE Linux
> Enterprise Server versions.”
> (cf https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/sles_installquick_20171221.pdf).
> So Installer + Basesystem Module = minimal system.
> 
> The installer alone for us is not intend to be used as a “minimal system”!

My last comment was not technically correct, so let me rephrase it:

When using the "Installer iso” _alone_ (without the “Packages iso”), you can
only install a “Minimal SLES” which can be compare to the pattern “minimal
system” of previous SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. The “Installer iso” only
contains the set of packages of “Minimal SLES” from the “Base System Module”.
The full “Base System Module” is present in the “Packages iso” or the Online Channels.

To sum up, if you want to install:
- Minimal SLES -> Installer iso
- SLES Text Mode -> Installer iso + Packages iso or Online Channels
- SLES With GNOME -> Installer iso + Packages iso or Online Channels

>> It looks to me like the minimal system would be enough to run applications, is that actually supported/intended or should the base module always be present (for SLES).
> 
> Well for “minimal system” we already provide and support JeOS. Did you take a
> look at it?

>> BTW: in minimal I missed "sudo" and "less", both packages seem to be on the installer media and can manually be installed. Is there a policy on what will be on installer CD but not in minimal?
>> Greetings
>> Bernd

Well, our goal for a minimal system is to reduce the package list to what we
consider the strict necessary to boot a system and be ready to be deployed or
integrated.
But it is expected that you might need to add packages to be able to run your
applications which could depend on tools and libraries not present in the
“Minimal SLES” or JeOS but on modules.

> On 30 Jan 2018, at 15:57, Bernd Eckenfels <ecki at zusammenkunft.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes you have different wordings in manual, meta data and installer gui. it woukd be good to unify minimal/base/text-only. However I was refering to the variant called “minimal” by the installer when no package media is registered (and sles product is selected).

I will check with our documentation team what we could improve to mitigate such
confusion. By the way, feel free to send any feedback on our Quick Installation
Guide (has been updated yesterday). https://www.suse.com/betaprogram/sle-beta/#documentation

> I am.mostly researching to give a minimal package base for installation prerequisites


Regards,
--
Vincent Moutoussamy
SUSE Beta Program and SDK Project Manager
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