[sles-beta] Discussion point,

Darren Thompson darrent at akurit.com.au
Wed Jun 18 01:07:14 MDT 2014


Olaf

On another thought "reproducible and verifiable"  systems also have merit
in that it would be good to know exactly how every host varies from a know
state, as it makes intrusion detection etc. much easier to achieve then the
current "trip wire" type scenarios we are having to deploy now.

Darren


On 18 June 2014 16:57, Olaf Kirch <okir at suse.de> wrote:

> Hi Darren,
>
> Reading quickly through this, these ideas seem to be primarily geared
> towards client type systems. These could inherently be stateless in the
> sense that for many things, automated configuration and useful defaults go
> a long way. Anything that provides a service is inherently stateful.
> Anything that needs to trust an authentication service (such as a
> directory) needs to be stateful.
>
> The other thing that sticks out a little is this: automated provisioning
> is a continuing research topic in the communities. Puppet, chef, autoyast,
> younameit. None of this stuff is trivial. This makes me wonder what
> scenarios Lennart plans to support, specifically. Compared to the
> contenders in the provisioning area, his is either a very restricted use
> case, or he's underestimating the complexity a little.
>
> Either way, it sounds like this is really way off in the future. Maybe
> material for SLE13, but definitely not for SLE12 :-)
>
> Regards
> Olaf
>
> Am 18.06.2014 um 05:02 schrieb "Darren Thompson" <darrent at akurit.com.au>:
>
> Team
>
> I have just been reading Lennart Poettering's systemd blog and it got me
> thinking.
>
> Factory Reset, Stateless Systems, Reproducible Systems & Verifiable Systems
> http://0pointer.de/blog
> Is it worth delaying the release of SLES12 and incorporating this
> functionality as it would be a compelling reason to update or switch to
> SLES12.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
>
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